182 – Connect to Your Inner Voice with Katie Krimitsos of Biz Women Rock

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I believe every single one of us as women who are

thinking about starting a business or are already on the way

would admit that the joy and the excitement also comes with

fear and anxiety and stress.

How do you deal with this?

Oh my gosh,

gift biz listeners.

I have been anticipating this conversation for ever.

I want to introduce you to Katie commits us.

Katie is a mom,

wife, podcaster and business strategist.

She's also an adventurer,

seeker and change maker.

Katie has committed to brightening the light of women around the

world. This is accomplished in two ways.

First through her biz women rock community,

which supports women entrepreneurs and most recently through meditation for women,

which are guided meditations that are specifically created with the special

journey of a woman in mind.

The meditations are tools to help reconnect with the divine wisdom

already inside of each of us so we may live our

own extraordinary lives.

Katie, welcome to the gift biz unwrapped podcast.

Sue, thank you so much for having me here.

I'm so excited to be here.

I am so excited too and I kind of feel like

I don't know if I believe in divine intervention,

but I do.

I've been following you for a while and you and I

recently met up in person and you told me about the

meditations and I'm like,

Oh my gosh,

my audience needs to know about this and that's why we're

here today.

Perfect timing.

So yeah,

that wouldn't have been the conversation if we had,

we met in person six months before.

There you go.

Well I start off in a little bit of a different

way because I have a lot of creative people here.

So I would like you to describe yourself through the way

of a motivational candle.

So if you were to create your own candle by color

and quote that speaks who you are,

what would it look like?

So I'll start with the quote and then describe the candle.

So the quote is a pretty common quote that I think

a lot of your listeners will know and it's the quote

that goes,

she believed she could.

So she did.

And my candle would be a bright white light and this

is something that you will get about me as you listen

to my meditations,

I talk about the white light in all of us.

My name Katie actually means pure and my middle name is

Lou short for Lucille.

And that means light.

And I really feel like who I am in this world

is just a bright white light.

And so those two things together is very much symbolic of

what I feel like I'm here to do and what my

highest and best use really is.

So I'm curious,

did your mom know and have this vision for you?

No. There's a really funny story about that.

We were talking about this last night,

she got my name,

she thought my name was going to be Julie,

which is the name of my little sister.

And so they were driving to the hospital ready to have

me thinking maybe it's Julie,

and they heard a radio station.

I was born in Tucson,

Arizona, and there used to be a radio station called Katie

Katie. And she heard it on the way up to the

hospital and she's like,

Oh Katie,

that's a good name.

Let's do that.

So she changed it right at the last minute.

Oh totally.

I was like,

well that ended up working out really well.

Oh my gosh,

that's fine.

So did you ever tease your sister and say,

Hey, I almost had your name?

Well, it's funny.

No, because it's just like,

I'm not a Julie.

Like I'm definitely not a Julie.

That's not me.

And that's so her.

So you know,

like everything works itself out.

Everything does.

That's so true.

My mom told me that she was going to name me

Virginia. That does not fit for you.

I'm like,

thank you.

Not that I have any problems with Virginia is mine.

Yeah, it was not a fit for me either.

So I totally get that.

Well I want to start by just talking a little bit

about biz women rock cause I don't know how you started

that at all.

I've been following you.

I know a lot.

I'm listening to your podcast,

but I really don't know what initiated all of that.

Can you share that with us?

Yeah. So it's worth noting obviously with the quote that I

have on my candle,

I don't know when or how this desire or inner knowing

that I am here to impact women into sort of specialize

with that niche.

Right. I don't know why that exists.

Maybe it's cause I have a feminist father,

a very matriarchal,

very powerful mother,

very opinionated mother who's amazing.

But I was always very lucky to be surrounded by amazing

feminine energy.

And just from a little girl knew that I loved women,

wanted to connect with women,

impact women,

bring women together.

Combine that with,

I was,

Oh my gosh,

30 I think I was 30 years old when I first

became an entrepreneur for the first time and that entrepreneur journey

looked like a business organization that my husband and I ran

together. And so it was a local company called the Tampa

Bay business owners.

It's much like a chamber of commerce but just for entrepreneurs.

And so we were facilitating education,

we were facilitating relationships and basically creating opportunities and a membership

based community for entrepreneurs take commune together so that they could

be better at being CEOs of their companies.

And so through that I just fell in love with entrepreneurship.

I so like that became a massive identity of mine.

My role in that company was not its founder.

My husband founded the company.

I came on about nine months later.

Well my role was as COO.

My gifts really lent themselves to organization,

to management,

to systems creation and all that sort of stuff.

And there was a point at which I was done with

that role.

Like I was ready to be a leader in and of

myself. And I finally had the confidence after all these years

of entrepreneurship to be like,

I feel like I have something to say or something to

teach or something to do here.

And so we,

part of what we were doing was facilitating education.

So one day we ended up bringing in somebody who talked

about podcasting and it was the first time that he and

I had ever heard of this thing called podcasting.

And it just clicked for the,

both of us were like,

Oh my gosh,

like this is what we're doing locally.

But this tool of podcasting allows you to do it globally.

And how amazing is that?

And my husband and I both have very big whys in

this world as far as we really want to make a

ripple in this universe with people that's meaningful for us in

our own individual way.

So that really appealed to us.

So we both kind of,

I immediately got different ideas about like,

Oh my gosh,

we could do a podcast about this.

Mine was,

I could do a podcast marrying my two loves business and

women. So that's what I did and that's when I came

up with biz women rock.

And in the beginning it wasn't anything other than a podcast

where I just wanted to feature really great women who had

really walked the gauntlet of entrepreneurship and were willing to come

on and tell their story so that other women could listen.

Because one thing I was finding,

which is not new,

is that in the traditional business arena,

the stories that we're getting featured there were very saturated with

men, which are amazing because business is business at the end

of the day.

However, there's something so special and beautiful about when a woman

shared her story because it was so multi-dimensional,

it was not black and white.

It incorporated family.

It incorporated self doubts.

It incorporated over mindset stuff like it was everything.

So that's what I wanted to do.

So he started biz women rock initially as a podcast with

the intention of like,

okay, I could see that this is a business thing.

Right? But not really knowing what that might turn into.

It took basically two years of me testing the market and

myself, by the way,

to figure out how I was going to make that into

a business itself.

Immediately though it launched an entire community,

so it became more than just a podcast.

Within one month I also launched a Facebook group and that

gave dimension to the listenership.

It allowed me to speak to my listeners in real time

and hear what they had to say,

get feedback about the shows,

invite them on to come be featured,

and over time it allowed me to be seen as an

expert. It's allowed me to be seen as a leader in

this community,

as somebody who is super passionate about supporting women entrepreneurs.

Eventually that evolved into me offering private coaching and strategy services

to my women masterminds,

live events,

online education,

paid communities,

all that sort of stuff.

Well and I think niching down for women,

I mean women do in your,

you were referencing this already,

women do have unique issues within the business community.

Yes, we do.

Luckily not the way it was when I was in corporate

because when I started there weren't even maternity plans.

You know I was the first one to have a baby

in our company and I was a relatively big company.

They all looked at each other like,

what do we do?

How do we do with you?

I have a client,

she's like,

I know you use the term mompreneur a lot,

but she's like,

I don't really identify with that because when I was in

corporate, those two things were so separate.

You either you are working when you're working and then you

don't talk about your family.

It's totally separate.

You just show up and do your job and then after

you clock out,

that's when you become mom and it's so beautiful because these

days we have so much freedom to be able to integrate

those things.

And that's just one example,

ago. It's very different,

but the responsibilities are still there.

So the challenges then are a lot different because now you're

merging things together too.

So it's a whole different environment.

And I think you started your show I think about a

year before I did.

How long have you,

has your show been going now?

Almost five years.

Yeah. So I'm almost on four.

And I remember even back when I started,

there weren't a lot of shows that were focusing on women

and business.

No, there was one.

I know it,

yeah, it was Jessica government show.

There was one other one and then there were a couple

of us that then launched right around the same time period.

And then I'm very grateful for this.

Now fast forward five years later that market is saturated and

I'm really happy about that cause I'm like,

great. That means more and more women are getting the messages

that they need.

Absolutely. So just a little bit more on this before we

keep going,

just because I'm curious and I think our listeners will be

too. What are you seeing are the maybe couple of biggest

obstacles that you continue to address with women?

Hands down.

The biggest challenge that every single woman entrepreneur has is that

we are in our own way.

And what I mean by that is the negative self talk,

the comparison,

the am I good enough,

how do I really make this work?

The self doubt,

those are all the softer sides of business strategy but they're

very real.

And so so much of the work that I do is

20% strategy and like how to and boom,

boom, boom and logistical and 80% mindset and confidence and how

to get beyond doing what everyone may have told you is

totally impossible,

but you have this drive in you to figure it out

somehow. But there's all this gunk in the way and it's

us like it's all of our own internal stuff.

So hands down,

that is the biggest challenge that comes up.

And it comes up in soft ways and pretty obvious ways

as well.

And so part of what I love doing,

what I really make a stand for is that we literally

can create the lives and businesses that we can dream up.

So it's just a matter of what are we dreaming about

and what are we possibly visualizing?

And then how do we make that a reality?

How do we get our mind to believe that that's totally

possible? Which is what brings us back to that quote.

Literally. If you can just believe it,

you'll do it.

Yeah. You know,

you think it's the mind.

So it should be so easy to overcome.

You just have to think it different.

But it's actually the hardest thing to do.

Uh, it is the most challenging.

I mean,

it's from the top down.

It's the mind,

it's the heart.

It's the soul.

Because our journeys as women are so multidimensional and so integrated.

I mean,

it's not just like,

Oh, I want to grow my business to be a $5

million business by this time.

And then let me create the milestones and how I'm doing

that. Like along that journey,

life happens,

somebody gets pregnant,

somebody, maybe you're taking care of an aging parent,

maybe the household is kind of falling apart.

Maybe a relationship is falling apart.

Maybe it's not even that dramatic.

Maybe it's just like life is busy and it's a lot

to keep up with.

But we as women tend to be the CEOs of our

lives, if you will.

Like we tend to be the manager,

the organizer,

the head in charge of the lives of us and all

of those people that we take care of.

I don't think we win by compartmentalizing those two things,

our life and then our businesses,

they all have to work together.

So that's the work to do.

Absolutely. Totally agree.

So let's move on now because we're talking about the mindset

and I'm thinking that a spin off into meditation and controlling

and strengthening your mind,

if you will,

so that you can overcome some of these entrepreneurial challenges.

Oh, absolutely.

Is that how that all played together?

Yeah. So it's funny.

So as you describe me before,

you know,

at the very beginning of the show it's sort of like,

Oh, she's good.

Biz women,

rock wait in the meditations,

what? How do those two things relate?

And the quick story behind that is that I have been

using the tool of meditation in my own life for two

decades at this point,

I was first introduced to it when I took a yoga

class in college and they did the guided meditation at the

very end of the class.

I was like,

wow, that was pretty awesome and just have sought it out

and have been a seeker of more ways to consume meditation,

to learn more about meditation,

use it in my own life and most,

especially in my business over the past two years,

it has been one of the biggest tools for me to

mostly get really connected to my inner voice and when it

comes to business because of all these external things happening in

life happening and those personal things of like,

am I good enough?

The self doubt.

Who am I to offer this?

Who am I to charge this?

Is this really possible?

What I want?

Can I really be the breadwinner of my family just doing

this, what I love to do?

Can I do that?

Meditation has become such an important tool for me to get

clear on what it is I know my next best step

to be versus what I feel like it should be and

what everyone keeps telling me it should be.

That has been massively transformative for my business.

I really attribute the growth that I've had in biz women

rock to me meditating and getting really clear on that voice

so that I can hear what am I supposed to do

and how do I continue on the path that's right for

me versus what I see is out there and that is

in line with what I'm here to do.

Okay, so you know you're talking to someone who knows very

little about meditation we talk to about that way in the

beginning. Right.

And I'm sure our listeners are mixed all over the board.

You know from some people who already integrate meditation and it's

valuable in their life and some people who are just learning

how to spell the word like me,

so I'm going to challenge you because I'm learning at the

same time here.

When you say that it helped you determine what the next

steps are really for you versus what everyone else is telling

you, how does that happen through meditation?

A great question and I'll be very specific and logistical and

practical about this.

It is the act of getting quiet and listening and so

sometimes for me the practical side of meditation is I'm literally

putting on a guided meditation so that I can have somebody

else walk me through just like relaxing my body and detaching

from my thoughts and being able to just sort of have

the space to listen to what is really happening inside of

me. Sometimes it's me just putting on a timer for 10

minutes and just being quiet and practicing,

paying attention to my breath.

Those two examples are very kind of sidelined,

like it's not like,

Oh, I'm going to do this meditation because I want to

get clear,

like what am I supposed to do?

It's like,

no, I feel stressed right now.

I feel anxious.

I feel like I'm not good enough.

I feel like I'm not doing what I want to be

doing. And there's something uneasy here,

like I'm not at ease and so I'm just going to

use the tool of meditation to physically breathe,

pay attention to my breath and just be quiet and detach

from all of these whirlwind of thoughts that we have going

a zillion miles a minute.

But sometimes there are things like I'm literally showing up to

ask questions to the universe out there or whatever it is

that you believe.

I want to sit down and just be clear and here's

the question that I'm asking you.

What do I do now?

I'm confused about what to do in my business or I'm

confused about should I put this thing out there or,

and I feel really anxious or scared or whatever about it.

What can I do?

And then you just meditation for me is the pause.

Okay. All right.

That's Perfect cause that enters maybe a question.

Let me just clarify.

I know as business women there's one thing to do and

then there's another project and then there's another and like it's

the multiple plates spinning at once,

right? So you're almost on autopilot because you have no time

to stop or all those plates are gonna crash.

And so it sounds potentially,

you've got to tell me if I'm right Katie,

is that if you're meditating,

it is a pause in all this craziness where you can

readjust, realign,

and determine if all those plates need to be going in

the first place.

Exactly it.

That's exactly what it is.

We kind of have to force ourselves to do it because,

so I would imagine that you've got plenty of examples of

this. I think every business woman does.

How many times have you been like,

okay, here's my 10 step plan and you just get tunnel

vision. You get busy running on that 10 step plan and

you're on step seven and you realize,

here's the trigger.

I'm not happy.

I feel anxious,

I'm uncomfortable and I'm snapping at everyone around me.

Why? What's going on?

And so if you don't take the pause to really get

realigned, that's such a great word.

That's exactly what it is.

If you don't take that pause to get realigned internally to

say, am I on the right path?

Like is this really,

I know I wanted this at step one,

but do I want this at step seven is step 10

really what I'm going for still?

So if we don't take this pause along the way,

then we can't readjust and shift and make adjustments and just

make sure that we're in line with what we're here to

do and what feels really good.

And what brings us so much joy.

There's no benefit to getting to step 10 just for the

sake of getting to step 10 you can tell me all

day long,

I want an online business that is a $10 million business,

but if you don't have a why behind it and you're

not checking in with yourself along the way to make sure

that that's what you really want.

And here's why.

Maybe things turned during that time and so you can get

to a $10 million business,

but if it is not the right thing for you,

and that's when you figure it out,

you're going to be really miserable,

Right? Because then you've got this whole business behind you and

you don't even want it anymore.

Of course.

So this literally is the,

just checking in with yourself,

the pause to check in with yourself,

realign, readjust,

make sure that you're here,

you're showing up the way that you want to be.

Well, I think there's another point that's kind of a light

bulb moment here for me too in that,

because if you have meditation as a tool in your back

pocket for when you're starting to feel stressed,

so like you said,

you pause to realign or confirm that what you're doing is

good. You just needed that break,

you know,

the sanity break or whatever.

But it sounds like you're more mindful and intentional with everything

then that you're doing even when you're not meditating.

Those two words are exactly it.

Mindful, intentional.

And that is back to my big belief,

and I know yours too,

of just living an intentional life in the world that we're

in, that's in the space of business.

But that's in everything.

Like just being really intentional about how you're showing up to

this life and what you're creating,

who you're being and mindful so that you're conscientious about how

you're showing up and what you're doing.

Yeah, that's exactly it.

Beautiful. Okay,

so let's now talk about meditation.

We talked about the purpose and the reason,

and it can be for if in business it can be

if you're not in business,

but just being mindful and attentive,

taking a pause and just aligning to what you really should

be doing in your life,

right? Yep.

So if someone is now curious,

like, okay,

I get what meditation is now,

how would I get started?

Or how do I integrate that in?

Or talk to us a little bit as if it's somebody

like me and I first met you,

Sue and I first had this conversation.

She's like,

I just don't get it.

And I've never been able to make it stick.

So Tried,

I told you I've tried.

I'm like,

Oh my gosh,

give me some to try and see if I can do

this right.

And it's working.

I have to say it's working.

I'm still a newbie,

but it's working.

So let's talk as if I'm a newbie brand newbie.

I'm still a newbie plus a little step,

maybe Baby steps,

baby steps in order to get to the practical,

let me start with a giant mindset shift and a paradigm

shift. Number one,

meditation doesn't have to look like anything.

One of the biggest reasons people might be turned off by

meditation or not want to even go there is because they

think it needs to look like getting up every morning at

5:00 AM sitting on their meditation pillow with incense,

burning music in the background.

That sounds actually really good to me.

I need to be a Yogi.

Like that's what they think it needs to look like.

And if I don't do it everyday exactly the same way

and get better at it and like then I shouldn't do

it at all.

So the first thing that I want to do is shift

a paradigm here called meditation.

Looks like a lot of different things.

One of the ways that I meditate is a walking meditation,

like I go on walks in nature because for me it

does the same thing that happens when I'm just sitting there

alone on my couch,

you know,

for 10,

15 minutes.

Really. You can walk and meditate.

Absolutely. That's the thing.

Yeah, it's a moving meditation and it's because what it does,

it's the pausing.

It is forcing you out of the hustle and out of

the running and it's detaching thoughts from who you are as

a being.

And for me the nature thing is huge because it reminds

me simultaneously of how interconnected that I am to nature and

to the animals and the birds I'm seeing around into the

water. And luckily for me in Florida to the dolphins swimming

in the water,

like all these majestical things and it reminds me how small

I am,

like how big and how small I am in the same

moment. So that's a very powerful meditation and type of a

meditation. So number one giant paradigm shift.

Meditation does not need to look like anything specific.

It can be what you need in the moment.

It can change,

it can shift it,

it can evolve.

The purpose of it though is ultimately that it's a pause,

so that's the first thing to really get.

Okay. Gift biz listeners,

I have to interrupt right here.

First Katie says,

we can meditate lying down now.

She says,

we can meditate when we're walking.

She has my complete attention.

Does she have yours?

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The second thing then,

as far as practical stuff is it could look like this.

It could look like,

like I said,

setting a timer on your clock for let's even say five

minutes. Okay,

for five minutes.

I'm just going to practice.

Breathing. Breathing is a really big tool in meditation and it's

something that most who teach meditation really start with breath.

And the reason why is because it's like a mantra like

you get to focus on your breath.

Cause most all of my meditation start with take a deep

breath in.

And I have heard this feedback from so many listeners like

Katie, that that was the first deep breath that I was

conscious of taking all day long.

And just the tool of using our breath to literally breathe

in deep.

I hope as you listen to you're doing this now,

just that has a very physical impact on us.

And so breath is a really great tool and it's a

great way to focus our mind and our thoughts on just

breath. And it's such a powerful way to be in the

now versus in all of the thoughts,

right? And the thoughts are the anxiety,

the what if so,

Oh my gosh,

I've got this to do list,

right? So that's a practical thing is really just focusing on

your breath.

And you can do that in a gazillion ways.

You can do that by listening to a guided meditation that

helps you walk through that.

So it sort of takes the pressure off of you,

if you will.

That's why I love guided meditations and or you could literally

set a timer and just say,

okay, for five minutes I'm just going to practice breathing.

And by the way,

there have been seasons of my meditating life where five minutes

for me,

maybe I've gotten 30 seconds of what I would describe as

sort of like thoughtless peace.

So the other thing to really know about meditation is that

they call it a practice for a reason.

The practice of meditation,

because there's no such thing called,

Oh, I'm going to turn on my clock and I'm going

to be in Nirvana and look like the Buddha for the

next hour.

No thoughts are always happening.

It's a matter of constantly training and retraining your mind to

get out of thoughts,

be present and just be here now,

if that makes sense.

Do you get better though at eliminating the distraction?

Because I know,

first of all,

I don't even feel like I know how to breathe because

when I do deep breathing,

then all of a sudden I can't breathe right now.

Like am I never going to be able to breathe right

again for some reason?

I don't know.

So I'm getting more comfortable with that.

I think it's just like working out.

I mean,

if you haven't worked out in 10 years and you show

up to running a 10 K,

it's not gonna be pleasant along the way and it's going

to be really painful.

But if you just show up every day saying,

no, what?

I'm gonna start to walk today,

the walking gets a little easier.

Pretty soon you're like,

maybe I'm going to try jogging for a couple minutes.

It's that.

It's a practice so the breathing gets easier and then does

the attention and the focus get easier?

Then over time too,

the answer's yes,

but it's two steps forward.

One step back.

It's just like business.

It has to do with life and there are seasons of

life that I have been in that have been ridiculously stressful

and anxiety producing and I'm going through a lot and believe

me on those days,

I mean I'm still practicing meditation,

but my mind is still zooming and then there are seasons

of my life where I feel little less stressed and a

little bit more in flow and okay,

I get to that place of ease a lot more often.

So the answer is yes,

you absolutely improve.

You absolutely have more and more moments of that pause and

that clarity and you get more out of it as you

go along and it's never perfect.

Oh, I'm so relieved.

Yeah, it doesn't need to be perfect.

I think that's the biggest myth.

This is really important for me to say.

I know just by nature of having this conversation,

I'm coming across as a meditation expert.

Please believe that I am not,

I am literally a consumer of meditation.

Someone who believes in meditation,

who has educated myself on education.

Don't get me wrong,

like I've been to Buddhist centers to like go through regular

classes, not only to learn about meditation but experience it.

I've been part of group meditations that we meet on a

weekly basis.

Like I've been in this world but I am not a

certified meditation.

I don't have that plaque.

I've not been teaching yoga for 20 years.

Like that ain't me.

I am a regular woman and the reason that I created

the meditation for women podcast was because I was like,

I want more women to have access to this tool in

a nonthreatening,

totally relatable way,

just like me because I'm just like you.

So I guess the point being is that part of,

I feel what I'm doing with this entire brand,

not only this podcast,

but the whole network that's behind it is making it more

accessible to women because our journeys are so unique and special

and so it's debunking a lot of this stuff that it

needs to look like this thing.

Exactly. All the time.

You and I were talking about like,

Oh, does it need to be this daily practice?

I'll be very honest with you.

There are seasons of my life where I don't meditate.

It just doesn't happen for maybe a couple of weeks or

even a couple months.

And then there are seasons of my life where I'm meditating

multiple times a day because that's what I need.

But this goes back to the idea of really using it

as a tool to get in tune with us so that

we know and we become really intuitive and conscientious and intentional

with who we are and what we need and what we

need to best take care of ourselves and how we're showing

up in this world.

Beautiful. Well,

I have to say,

and that's probably why I'm sticking with it,

because the very first one that I listened to of yours,

which was the first one,

I listened to,

the intro,

which you know,

you were laying the groundwork and then the very first meditation,

I was so relieved when you said it wasn't sit up.

It's like get comfortable.

Whether that's sitting or lying down.

And I'm like,

okay, I'm already loving this Because I can like,

yeah, I do a lot of meditating.

Lying down.

That's where I am.

That's my favorite pose,

if you will.

Okay. So we're talking about meditation and the value that it

provides to women overall.

Yes. But as we spin it into entrepreneurs,

it making sure,

number one,

that you're driving to a goal that really is going to

fit you and that you're going to like when to get

there. And also making the journey more palatable along the way.

Because I think it brings a level of peace when you

get out of control.

Yeah. And clarity.

So let's now chat some more specifically about meditation For women.

What does that really mean?

What's the podcast about?

How can people get involved?

What do you do as a new meditation person?

And I can give you like a list of questions,

but I think I forgot the first one.

So let's start with meditation for women.

What specifically is it?

So meditation for women is a podcast that you can access

for free on whatever podcast listener you are listening to Sue's

show on right now.

What happens when someone brand new gets there?

What should they be doing?

So number one,

you're going to see immediately a library of all of the

meditations that are there.

I have deliberately named the meditation kind of how I listened

to meditations and how he searched for meditations,

which is what am I feeling right now?

Or what do I want to feel that I'm not feeling?

So really use them as a catalog to say,

what do we need to hear right now?

And so I've labeled them titles such as start your day

with gratitude.

You're in a fight with your spouse,

you are enough.

You are extraordinary.

That's a good one.

I love that one.

I think that's my favorite.

That's my most popular one,

by the way so far.

Oh it is?

Yeah, by far.

Yeah. And so labeling these,

you know,

you want to talk about the marketing aspect of it,

labeling. These are very deliberate on my part.

Yeah. I could have a shocker meditation,

but it's like if somebody doesn't know,

shocker us and they're not really interested in that or don't

know what that is,

I want it to be like,

what do I need to feel?

Or what am I feeling that I want to get rid

of? And so my job then is to say,

okay, that's the title that I need to live.

So if you're new listener to it,

go there,

try one out and what message do I need to hear

today? Or what kind of thing do I need to have

in my ears and go listen to it.

And it always starts with a little bit of a message

for me and then goes into some sort of a visual

guided meditation.

That's what it is,

the purpose of it.

And I think that you could hear just from listing a

few of the titles,

it is very specific to the women's journey and I don't

know any other way to talk.

I'm a woman.

That's what I know,

that's what I identify with.

And so truly I am creating these meditations based on my

own experiences,

based on what experiences I know that the other incredible women

in my life have experienced.

And so there are themes that we all are experiencing.

And so I really try to create meditations that are in

line with those themes.

And thus I believe making them very specific to the woman's

journey. I think that's so valuable for all of us too,

because this podcast is about being on an entrepreneur too.

So you're pulling from your community of women entrepreneurs and their

challenges and all of that,

and your personal life,

maybe your friends,

and those are the purposes,

if you will,

behind each meditation.

Totally. I'll give you this example.

I just got back from a vacation right now and it

was horrible.

It was not relaxing or not rejuvenating and I'll spare you

the drama of it.

But one of the big reasons was because there was one

of the people that was on vacation with us was incredibly

toxic and impacted me immensely.

Like I took on that energy and it was just really

draining. So out of that,

I created a meditation called how to shield yourself from toxic

people. There is not one woman I know who would raise

her hand going,

yep, I need that.

Like I've totally had that.

I have had the energy vampires.

I totally have toxic people in my life or just experienced

a toxic thing and I need to know how to do

that. That's how it flows,

you know,

like, okay,

yes, that's what I need.

I need that.

Absolutely. And I could see that even in business,

you know,

you were on vacation,

which is a bummer because when you're on vacation,

you're supposed to be on,

and I hope you meditated a lot just to get out

of that zone.

I've had experiences like that too,

but I could see that,

you know,

when you have a client or you get a nasty email

or something,

because unfortunately all of us get those from time to time.

Anytime you step into any public eye,

things are gonna happen like that.

Right. And it's those like you can have a million good

messages and then just one,

it only takes one to shoot you down.

One comment from someone who's not nice,

most of the time they're ridiculing things of yours that they

would never do themselves.

Right. So it's all talk,

but Oh my gosh,

Katie, I see how helpful that could be.

I actually know somebody has that episode live yet?

No, not yet.

I already know someone who needs that.

It should be live by the time We go live with

this interview.

So yes,

go look for that one.

Oh my gosh.

So are you like looking at your life all the time

then and figuring out what the new topics are or do

you have a list already?

I'm curious for the future.

Yeah. So I'll just give you,

so from a business perspective,

like how I was kind of in creation mode when I

first had this idea,

I did a brain dump of like what topics could I

talk about so that I could really solidify them.

Oh my God,

I had a list of hundreds basically.

Right. Well you got a lot of work to do.

I mean it's not that,

it's just like if I asked you to do the same

thing, you would be able to do it in a heartbeat.

What have I experienced?

What little moments have I had that I need to pause

from or that I need to hear message about?

So I have that list that I pull from,

but in addition to that I'm having an in the moment

experience and my nature of who I am as a content

creator throughout all my experience is really what am I experiencing

in this moment?

How do I then translate that into something that can then

help other people?

I mean that's literally what I do in my business for

biz women rock and now I'm channeling it in a different

way here for the meditation for women podcasts,

so in business that might have looked like how to be

in tune with what makes you so special because I just

had an issue that really challenged me where I'm comparing myself

to somebody else.

So I needed to get super clear on how I am

my own unique self in special and separate from the whole

crowd and that's something that I would then translate into marketing

or even product for the biz women rock community.

I'm literally doing that exact same thing and that exact same

process here for the meditations.

It's just naturally kind of how I am a content creator

and how I process things.

Actually as a person and it just happens to come out

as content.

Love it.

Okay, so we're catching you,

Katie, kind of at an interesting point in time because you

are an experienced and successful entrepreneur with biz woman rock.

You've identified another angle.

Now biz women rock doesn't go away.

It stays.

Nope, it's still here.

But meditation for women is something now that you have on

and It's still very new.

How many episodes do you have out right now?

That's a great question.

I think 10 10 or 12 as of right now,

we're going to be about,

I don't know,

two months into it.

I think by the time that this goes live,

this is kind of a test question.

I'm kind of testing this out as as we talk about

it, but you've got a lot of experience now you're starting

something new and you get a feel for the response,

and I think it's been favorable from everything that I've heard

so far.

What's your mindset of the progression of meditation for women?

Oh, that's such a good question.

Okay, so the mindset is this,

because I think I know where you're going as far as

the position I'm in.

Yes, I'm super experienced.

Yes. I feel super confident and very strategic about everything that

I'm doing and what I'm building out with this.

And I'm also a newbie and I'm also kind of in

the space where I'm like,

ah, this is all brand new because this as a podcast,

if we're looking at it from that point,

is very different than biz women rock podcast.

I don't know that anyone's done this before.

Not to what I'm talking about.

No, we're here talking about the meditation for women.

That is the first of many podcasts that I'm launching under

the brand of the women's meditation network.

So this is big.

I mean it's pretty big and it exists out there.

I mean obviously podcasts,

networks exist out there and subsets of all these different shows

exist underneath them.

And even in the meditation space there are a couple different

networks, but like what definitely what I'm doing is its own

special place and so everything is really new.

How I marketing is new,

how I'm approaching it.

So the mindset that I have to have right now is

twofold. Number one,

I want to run it a thousand miles a minute because

I am ridiculously obviously really passionate about the impact of this

entire brand and of each of these individual meditations and mostly

of the individual women who are listening who get impacted pretty

deeply and consciously on the other end of these podcasts.

So that fires me up,

girl. And like I know all of your listeners can identify

with when you are fired up about your business.

You don't want to do anything else.

You want to run it a thousand miles a minute.

Yeah. And there's like no stopping you.

There's not except you ought to because you need to make

sure to clarify right road,

right during the pauses of meditation.

Right, which I absolutely do.

But what's mixed in that is that at this moment I'm

seven months pregnant with our second kid and so we have

almost three year old toddler right now.

It's such an exciting time.

It's very exciting.

I have an amazing husband who is also an entrepreneur in

his own right.

He was phenomenal and doing his own things.

Like I have a life that is outside,

but related to this project,

so I can't run at a thousand miles a minute right

now. And physically,

by the way,

just from being seven months pregnant,

there are definitely energetic things that I,

I'm running slower than I would normally be if I were

not pregnant.

Yeah, but you're balancing life.

Well, that's exactly,

and by the way,

this is totally a snapshot of everything that we've talked about,

about our woman's journey here in business.

Right? Right.

For me,

it is a massive mindset practice to have the vision,

to want to run it a thousand miles a minute,

to have all that passion and to give myself an immense

amount of grace.

If I'm only on like step two of where I thought

I'd be at step like 55 right now,

right? Yeah,

it's okay then I'm at step two is totally okay.

And that's by the way,

part of what my current meditation practice is about.

It's okay,

grace. Katie,

you're here.

You're now,

there's something to be learning along this journey,

even though you're moving at two miles an hour versus a

thousand miles an hour that you really want to be moving

at. So that's one thing,

that's a massive mindset thing and that's really about being present

for this journey.

The second but big one is how big this really is

and what this really means for who I am in this

world and what I'm here to do.

This is big.

I mean this is really big and there's an entire story

that goes behind why I launched this network and I told

that story on a recent solo episode on biz women rock

and it's really,

really vulnerable and just totally out there.

Will you give me that link so that I can put

it in the show notes?

Absolutely. But it tells a very vulnerable and real story about

how I was totally on a different path at the beginning

of this year with biz women rock.

I got pregnant and that shifted everything.

And so this is what came out of that.

And so one of the biggest aha moments was when I

started talking about this and my husband and I get so

much credit for sort of putting this idea back in my

head. I'd had this idea for the meditation podcast back in

January, but didn't do anything with it.

And so during this time of like,

what am I doing and I don't know what's going on,

and we just found out we were pregnant,

that kind of changes everything.

He was the one who reflected this idea back to me.

Well what about that?

You know?

And so he made a statement to me that is really

the core of this mindset,

which is Katie,

you have always been really passionate about really helping women light

up from the inside out.

You've been doing that through business for all these years and

that's awesome and you're doing great job doing that and what

you're talking about with this whole meditation network that spreads your

ability to do that so much further,

that really is in line with what you're here to do

in the world from everything that I know about you.

And that is a big mindset shift because right.

I believe in the bigness of it and that's terrifying and

also invigorating.

And also I need to keep myself humbled and grounded in

order to be in the moment of doing that.

Just one step at a time,

if that makes sense.

Yeah, it does.

And it's interesting too that you had to hear affirmation because

I think you kind of knew it in yourself already,

but to hear someone else say it to you that,

that someone else is identifying that also for you had to

be so like it just blossoms everything.

Oh it does of course.

Cause you're like,

okay, yeah,

you see it too.

Okay. Yeah,

that's that.

It's right.

It's not just my imagination.

Exactly. It aligned them like,

yeah, it clicks like,

yes. Okay,

cool. I got it.

One more question on this end.

Now that you're developing something else,

in addition,

are you feeling more confident or do you have the same

concerns and questions and I won't say self doubt,

but just thoughts of how everything is going to go as

you did when you did biz women rock.

Yes and no.

It's a different phase I would say because I now about

a decade of entrepreneurship under my belt and specifically with biz

women rock five years of that,

I feel really confident in who I am as a business

person, as a strategist,

as somebody who can see what's ahead and plan for it

and organize it and what's possible.

Like I feel really confident about that so I don't have

the same who am I and what am I doing?

And I don't know what people want for me that like

I don't feel that like I definitely felt in the beginning

of biz women rock the hiccups if you will.

And by the way,

there's definitely been the self doubt,

but that's been in the form of like the who am

I? I'm not a Yogi.

Like who am I to give guided meditations and that's still

comes up every once in a while.

But I've actually made it useful for me as a PowerPoint

topic. No,

this is why this is,

I should continue to do this.

Right. So that stuff,

it's more in the background,

kind of that negative self talk or like the hesitations of

like, I don't know about this but I have very little

of that.

It's humble confidence is what I have right now,

knowing that I am at the beginning of a new journey

and also that I've also traversed a pretty good journey so

far so I'm totally in the right spot to be ready

for this journey and I'm going to learn a heck of

a lot more as I continue it.

Beautiful, humble confidence.

I love that.

Okay. Let's finish up here with any other final comments you

have for people who might be interested in learning more and

participating and listening to the podcast.

Any final direction on how to approach it?

Yeah, so the first thing that I would say is go

listen, go listen to all of the totally free meditations that

are there for you on the podcast itself.

If you don't want to listen on your actual podcast player,

you can go to meditation for women,

podcast.com and all of them are there as well.

And then I actually do give away a totally free five

days of free meditations.

Oh, that must be new.

Yeah, but that you'll find that on the website.

If you just go to meditation for women,

podcast.com you'll find it there.

But you could go to meditation for women podcast.com

forward slash five days and just opt into that and that'll

give you a meditation every day for five days.

How does that work?

Does it come through an email or something or,

yep, it comes through email.

These are different than what's currently on the podcast.

These are very specific ones in there specifically for getting yourself

into the practice of it.

And so every single day you'll get an email really early

in the morning,

but you can listen at any time and it's just like,

okay, here's your daily meditation.

They'll be anywhere from five minutes to maybe 15 minutes and

it's a really easy to digest.

And the idea is just to get you in the habit

of saying,

yes, this is for me today.

Yes, I'm going to do this today.

So that's available for you.

Totally free.

And the idea is just to give you more of a

taste of it,

whether you've been meditating for 20 years plus yours and just

kind of want a new fresh way to experience them,

or you're totally brand new and maybe a little skeptical and

like whatever,

I can't get into this.

This is my challenge to have you actually just try it

and do it just like you're doing Sue.

Oh yes.

Well, I'm already doing it with the podcast,

but I'm definitely going to dive into the five days too.

I want it all.

I want to know all of it.

So we've been talking a lot about getting into your inner

self, identifying,

getting clear,

pausing, breathing,

all of that.

And now I'm kind of going on the same vein,

but now we're going to do something more law of attraction,

Katie. Okay.

Yep. I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.

It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.

So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable

Heights that you would wish to obtain.

Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.

What is inside your box?

What's inside of my box is the transformation beyond those things

that keep us personally imprisoned and small.

So if really the gift is a gift for every single

woman on this planet to be transformed beyond those thoughts of

self doubt,

those what ifs,

all of those boulders have responsibilities on her shoulders so that

we can transform into the space of really letting our individual

lights shine.

Not in comparison to one another,

but in really lighting each other up so that we can

live lives that are big in whatever we describe that to

be. That's for me too,

by the way,

like that is a big reason why I continue to do

this cause that's what I continue to strive for is how

can I transform beyond this worldly personal internal battles that I'm

going through so that I can get to the cream of

what I'm really here to do and how I'm here to

serve and how I'm here to connect.

So that is a gift that I want to pull out

of this box and give away to every single woman.

That's beautiful because it is,

it's a gift for you,

but you're sharing it with everybody else and that's all that

you're about.

That's exactly what the meditation for women is all about.

Yeah. My daughter's included.

Like that's a really big thing.

We're about to have another little girl,

so I'm like,

how can I give my daughters the gift of,

I mean they're going to go through their own self doubt.

Of course.

That's part of like growing up it builds character,

but like how can I give them the next transformation,

the next level of freedom to be themselves and to express

themselves fully.

That's what this is.

Beautiful. I absolutely love it and I love how you've niched

down. I mean we've talked,

you know,

in the entrepreneurial world we talk a lot about not being

so broad,

but really niching down what you're doing to serve a specific

group of people and that's what you're doing here too.

All of this falls into place here.

How best could our listeners get in touch with you?

Either if they want to know more about biz women rock

or we've talked about the meditations.

I think already,

but we're are two places that you'd want us to go.

One for biz women rock and one for the meditation.

So for the meditation it would be that same website that

I had commented on before.

So meditation for women,

podcast.com for biz women rock.

I would recommend going to biz women,

rock.com forward slash group and that is a direct link to

the private Facebook group that I have where I have over

five women who are all women entrepreneurs,

very high driving,

purposeful, a mixture of all different types of businesses,

but they're all there to live out businesses that they're passionate

about. And so that's where I live mostly.

So it's free to join,

so you're absolutely welcome to come and join that group and

just start interacting with me there.

Thank you.

Katie, you have given us such a gift today.

Just you know,

learning more about meditation.

Those who already are doing it have a whole new Avenue

now that they can go by with all of your meditations

and those who are new.

I think the whole idea of pausing in a day is

something we can all use and I love that you can

pause and walk at the same time.

That is so perfect.

Yes, you can.

Once again,

thank you so much and when we hang up,

I want you to know that you've done a lot of

good for my listeners and I really,

really appreciate it,

so thank you so much.

It was such a gift to be here.

I really love that you have this community and you have

this platform to be able to share your gift and I'm

just, I feel so honored to Be a part of it.

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