385 – How Your Behaviors Affect Your Mental Health with Renee Reisch

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As I said at the beginning,

today's show is really important because it contains a serious and

potentially life-transforming message.

It's a discussion on how your lifestyle and the habits.

Maybe I should say behaviors you've adopted into your being affect

your health and the way you show up in your world,

I'll go so far as to say how they affect your

potential success to not just business success,

but overall fulfillment of the goals you have for your life.

A dramatic statement.

Yes, because the true story you're about to hear is just

that Renee goes into detail of how she experienced an immediate

hard stop in her life.

You'll hear what she discovered about herself when her life was

forced to be put on hold and how little by little

she found her way back now,

living a much richer life all around.

If you've been going day to day taking care of everyone

else, but you,

this is a must listen to show.

And if you know someone else in your life,

who's doing the same,

please share this with them.

It's that important Today.

I am really excited to introduce you to Renee rice of

finding your voice as someone who's struggled with speaking up for

herself, both personally and professionally,

Renee never realized the impact it would have on her life

until she physically lost her voice.

And doctors didn't know if she would ever speak again.

It took close to a year along with the support of

a vocal coach to fully regain it,

to use that was her outer voice,

but it was our inner voice that took it away.

People pleasing,

limiting beliefs,

low self-esteem and looking for outside validation for inner worth.

It would be years later after being released from her 25

year corporate position,

when she knew she needed to do something with the gift

of getting her voice back to serve others today,

she's a best-selling author,

speaker and transformational woman's empowerment,

coach Renee,

welcome to the gift biz unrepped podcast.

Thank you so much for having me.

So it really is an honor and a pleasure to be.

I am so thrilled.

And before we do start,

truly let's share with everybody how we connected through the owl

app. Yes.

Dazing and just,

that's an incredible app.

I know.

And this'll be the first time some of our listeners will

even hear about this app.

What it is is it's a way for you to call

experts and get just a few minutes of their time with

a specific question that you might want answered.

And Renee and I both jumped on board pretty early in

the game.

When a lot of us who are there to help others

who are on the app to help others,

we're really just networking with each other.

We're getting to know the structure of calling each other and

that's how you and I connected and have since had several

conversations. But I kept saying to you,

Renee, I don't want to know your story.

I don't give me the details.

I don't want to know because I wanted all of us

to hear it together.

However, as you guys all know,

I love teasing and I'm keeping you in suspense.

Renee, doesn't get to share her story quite yet because I

want her to share something else with us.

And that is who she is by way of a motivational

candle. So Renee,

if you were to give us a deeper level glimpse about

you, I know we're going to go really deep,

but a deeper level at this point,

what would a motivational candle look like by color and quote?

It would be white.

And it would actually also have a sense of the Nella

with a hint of lavender,

because I think those are very soothing sense.

At least to me,

they are.

And the quote would be never give up,

Never give up.

And gosh,

I am anticipating that the meaning behind that is going to

be a lot deeper for all of us in relation to

you as we carry on.

Okay. No more delay.

Let's go ahead and dive into it,

but bring us to the point of what your life looked

like before the challenges came up.

Alright, perfect.

So I was working in corporate America.

I was with a fortune 500 company for total.

It turned out to be 25 years,

When my life literally came to a screeching halt.

So prior to that,

I was just running around like a chicken with my head

cut off.

I'm managing multi-million dollar teams.

What was the business?

I was retail.

Okay. Yeah.

Manager and retail.

Yeah. You truly don't know anything.

And now there's a need,

this is as good as your intention to not know before

we got into this.

Yeah. So just taking care of everybody else,

but me making sure that every,

all my goals were met and it didn't overachiever doing everything

over that I needed to do.

This Does not surprise me.

I just really wanted to Excel.

And you know,

in doing that,

I made sure that everybody on my teams were taken care

of. And I was getting ahead.

And from millennials to middle to older from every age,

race, ethnicity,

under the sun I was responsible for.

And I did it.

I did it really,

really well until I no longer could,

because there was a forest note,

no matter what you believe,

source energy,

God universe,

that there's a stronger and higher power who sees what we're

doing and says,

this is not going to serve you or anybody else because

you can't continue this way.

And I didn't because my life literally came to a screeching

a chicken,

my head cut off,

I literally was just stopped in my tracks.

It was a Christmas holiday season,

December. Imagine you work retail corporate fourth quarter,

very taxi.

And I did stop.

I literally just kept going,

going, going,

working on days off.

I mean,

it was my choice.

No one held a gun to my head.

They got to keep going.

And I'm like,

no, I knew what I needed to do.

And I knew what it would take to do it.

So I just kept piling through my days and my days

off just to keep going and going and going.

And a screeching halt was this.

I went into work when I shouldn't have one day.

Cause I knew I was the only senior manager closing with

other. It was other Christmas managers that were hired,

but you were not allowed to close a building with Christmas

hires, even if they were in a management position to support

the holiday,

unless they were regular associates and they were not regular managers.

So I went in without calling out sick because I thought,

how could they even take my call out?

Even though I knew I didn't feel well.

When I saw the schedule,

I was the only manager closing that was attending manager.

So I went in sick and with the time I went

and it was not horrible,

but it wasn't good where You had a cold,

sick type thing.

Yeah, it wasn't one to get sick,

but I knew probably cause I had run myself down.

It was like,

my throat was a little sore.

I had headache.

I didn't feel well.

Like all right.

Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. But I'm,

I don't call out.

They're not going to accept this.

So I didn't,

I never did.

I went in,

but as the hours were going on and I was scheduled

to midnight,

which means I wasn't going to get to one and we

got to close the whole building as a manager and as

the hours were progressing,

my throat was the starting to burn.

I thought a fever coming in strong.

And I was like,

oh my gosh,

what am I going to do?

Well, I stayed.

And when I got out to my car,

I was literally shivering.

Couldn't wait to get home.

And I woke up with my throat on fire and I

drove to urgent care.

I drove myself.

I said,

I thought,

there's, this looks like a story in my throat now unless

you're two.

And you're like a two year old tell,

you know,

mommy, I feel like there's a sore on my throat.

You're like,

okay, can you got a sore throat?

Or you're like,

but mine was like,

I felt like there's physically a sore.

So doc,

she looked and she's like,

you know what?

You're right.

There is one in the middle of your throat.

There's actually a sore.

So that's what it feels like.

I go home.

She does a rapid strep test.

Nothing. You're good.

Just, you're not,

maybe it's something,

but you don't know what.

So I go home.

I just try to relax and calm down and drink tea

and honey note to self.

When you have a sore,

that's not a sore throat.

Don't put sugar on it,

which is honey.

It was like on fire.

So the next morning,

my best friend,

who's now in heaven watching over me,

along with my dad,

she drove me back to urgent care because I was this

like in a bad way.

And that one store literally gave birth.

I said,

how many are there?

She said,

you need to get her to the ER.

Now it exploded.

And there were sores,

all of my vocal chords.

And I ended up in the ER and I don't exactly

know at what point,

but within that timeframe,

my voice was gone.

I had no voice.

So you would open your mouth and nothing would come out.

Nothing. There was nothing Like you would try and move.

And like he was paralyzed by,

It was paralyzed.

Not like it was paralyzed.

I had nothing.

My vocal chords were riddled with sores.

That once were exploded into a multitude.

And when I asked her how many she wouldn't tell me,

cause she probably knew the doctor didn't she,

that I would freak out.

She just told my best friend,

get her to the ER.

Now she couldn't help me.

She said,

you need to get her there.

And so we went first her house because she was a

girl scout.

And you know,

once the girls got always a girl scout and she,

you know,

went to get like magazines and books and snatches,

like she know when you go to the ER,

it's not going to be a two minute visit.

You're going to be there for awhile.

So we stopped there and she gathered those up,

all these things and a blanket and all these things to

make sure I was okay and she'd be okay.

And we were there for several hours and it was the

beginning of a silence in my voice that I never anticipated.

I was quarantined because I remember before my voice was totally

gone. I asked the doctor in the ER and my contagious.

He literally looked down at me and said,

you're highly contagious.

You can't be with the public.

Okay. So you're separated.

You can't talk.

What was the diagnosis?

Was it a virus or what Exactly?

It was a virus.

It was called viral pharyngitis.

Your fairness,

your vocal cords.

They were riddled with sores.

Nothing that allowed me to speak.

And what was the prognosis that you knew of the time?

Like, could you just be quiet and like within a week,

supposedly it would get better?

Or what were they telling you at that time would happen?

They didn't even know what to do with me.

Really? Yeah.

I was scared.

It turned out and they doctors,

no idea what this was.

As a matter of fact,

he gave me a test.

And like from the time of little house on the Prairie

of that kind of time,

like what this could be,

cause he didn't even know what to do.

He's like he sent me back to my doctor,

to my regular doctor and she ended up in that three

and a half,

four month isolation.

I went and had about 20 vials of blood drawn for

me, trying to figure out what does she have and why

can't we get her better?

Okay. So I want to make sure that this is really

relevant to all of our listeners too.

Like imagine not being able to be around people,

not being able to talk.

What were you thinking to yourself?

Like what was your mind doing at that point?

Well, you know,

so you know me now and I am literally people are

to me like water to a plant and here you can't

see this audio right now,

but I thrive on connections with people that is my water.

That is my life and my lifelong connections.

So in your mind where you like,

okay, I'm just going to endure this time.

It will be fine.

Or were you freaking out?

Cause you had no idea if like what was happening.

You know what?

I ended up falling into a very deep depression because like

I said,

if people are to me like water to a plant and

you are cut off from that oxygen supply.

So it was mental,

physical, and emotional.

I'm going to tell you why for each the mental,

because doctors couldn't help me because it was a virus.

They couldn't say here,

I started taking this medication and what check,

you know,

check back.

You should start feeling better.

And like we know with COVID when this is being recorded

and you know,

20, 22 it's been going on for two years week with

COVID, it's a virus.

They can't just say,

take this pill and check back.

You should be getting better soon because of that.

That's why I kept getting voicemails.

Cause I couldn't answer my phone from my doctor's office saying

go for more blood work.

I'm like,

oh my God,

I couldn't eat.

I'm a slender gal.

I couldn't eat,

I couldn't drink.

I could swallow my own saliva.

I would literally end up spitting it out.

Cause it was easier than swallowing it.

You know the thing is you don't know how many times

a day you swallow until you can't.

If I said so how many times have you blinked today?

You say,

I have no idea.

I just do it.

I don't think about it.

It's a natural,

it's automatic.

Well, you swallow automatically when you need to.

Other than when you're eating a meal and you have to

swallow to get your food done,

you swallow during the day,

but you don't know how often you just do.

Well, you know how often when you're unable to.

So it was the mental because doctors couldn't help me.

And I had no idea how to help myself.

It was emotional because I was cut off from my loved

ones that supply and friends could be with them.

My family,

my parents,

my best friend and fiscally,

it was painful because my vocal chords,

as I said,

were riddled with very painful sores,

like all over them on every level,

the trifecta of trifectas that I was and then the isolation.

So it was like,

what am I going to do it?

Wasn't like half,

some soup,

have some chicken soup,

have some tea and honey again,

no honey.

When you have sores that are assaulted and wound.

So I was literally just wasting away looking out of my

window, like a hospital window withering away.

I looked forward to going back to bed to get out

of the pain.

I'm going to say as is in life.

When the things you are trying to escape that you were

meant to face,

you can't get out of because I would wake up in

the middle of the night in tears yet wasn't able to

hear my voice of pain because I had no voice.

It was a salt water from my tears rolling down my

face. But I could hear my own pain because I couldn't

even cry out loud.

There was no voice.

Oh geez.

So just sit with that for a minute and think of

how that would be.

I can't even imagine that.

When did things start changing?

What was the road to recovery?

Looking like?

It was very long when the doctor said they didn't know

if it was permanent damage.

They had sent me to a specialist at that point when

they said,

I never thought that it was even a possibility that was

permanent. Like I just know I'm really sick.

I knew I had a low grade fever because it was

an infection in my body that wasn't going away.

So every day there was a low grade fever and mean

I knew the pain in my throat was God,

it was intense.

Immense. I don't know how else to like razorblades,

sharpest statements,

whatever you can think of that would be the most fire,

anything like that.

So it was when they told me the doctors that they

wanted to see if it was permanent damage,

he sent me to a specialist that car ride to this

specialist office was like,

oh my God,

I never thought it was.

I just knew it was bad.

I never,

in my mind said this could be permanent until they said

this could be permanent.

And we don't know if it's going to be because of

scar tissue.

That's been all over your vocal cords from these tours.

And I couldn't even say that I was in my head.

That was when I said,

oh my God,

I may be a mute.

So I went to the specialist office and you know,

there's a book I wrote,

which I'll talk about in a minute.

And that wasn't in how I anticipated getting to the big

screen. My vocal chords are really on this big screen that

they had the two white codes that came to me with

this long thing,

that there were sticking down my throat to see if it

was going to be permanent damage.

And it had a camera on it.

They looked down my throat to see what this was.

And that was when they realized,

they said,

okay, it's not permanent.

That's when my regular doctor sent me to another specialist of

vocal coast specialists.

That was the outer voice.

That was what I was talking about in my bio.

And when I got that going,

that was really about doing different exercises to get up out

of voice back.

And I worked very diligently with her and it was a

lot of effort because I had some ability to look at

myself in the mirror.

And I wrote that too.

We talked about looking yourself in the mirror.

I literally had to,

as I was doing these exercises for my vocal chords.

So it was a really incredible part of this journey that

I was on to release all of those things.

But I realized years later after being released from that corporate

position, that it was never that virus that I had,

it was the limiting beliefs that people pleasing the low self-esteem,

all of those things looking for out of validation for the

inner self-worth,

all of those things that manifested from my outer world in

my inner self.

And that's what took voice away.

I truly do that.

So you really think that your inner self-talk of everything that

you just said affected you physically cause truly physically you couldn't

talk, but you think that it was that inner conversation that

you were having with yourself that created this physical situation,

which resulted in your inability to talk Absolutely.

A hundred percent.

I didn't even question that.

I mean,

I was responsible for all these multi-million dollar teams ended up

being number one and the district,

the reason,

the company,

the country.

So on the outside,

everything looked like you had it made Renee.

Exactly. Everything was,

you know,

she's doing well,

getting awards,

all of these great things,

just use just sort of doing great,

but inside I was dying a slow death.

Well, how did you identify that?

This is your belief now.

Like when did it come to you?

That that was what was happening.

I believe it was after I was released from that 25

year corporate position.

And I remember falling into another depression then,

because again,

I was running around all that time to care everybody.

And then again,

isolated. Right?

I couldn't look for work.

I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror because I

thought I was a piece of crap that I wasn't wanted

anymore. And what,

you know,

I put all my blood,

sweat and tears of a quarter of a century into a

company that was now releasing me after doing so well and

bringing them to number one and putting them on the map

and that's again,

then them,

them. Right.

What about me?

So you're talking serious,

serious depression,

like totally debilitating depression.

A hundred percent.

Yeah. Okay.

Question. Just a quick question.

You were already working in your corporate job when this happened.

Like what year along the way was this?

When that happened?

Yeah. And so how long had you already been in corporate?

How long have you been keeping this lifestyle going before?

All my life.

I would say,

I would say all my life even,

and I'm going to share some things that I don't often

share. And I'm going to say all my life,

even before that,

because when I was in school as a young girl,

I was bullied and I didn't defend myself.

You didn't speak up for yourself.

So that was the start of you shutting down and holding

it in And,

and any relationship,

I just was the people who's wanting to make everybody happy

because to me,

they were happy.

That was all I needed,

making them happy,

whoever that person or those people were,

if they were happy that I felt satisfied that I brought

joy to somebody's life.

So you were living for others,

which I mean,

living for others is okay,

but you can't do that in exchange for not living for

yourself. Exactly.

It's nice to want people to be happy.

It's nice to want to bring joy to people's life a

hundred percent.

I agree,

but not in place of your own happiness or your own

self worth.

And that's not selfish itself flesh because like we know in

order to please others,

you've got to first,

please yourself.

We hear these things.

Can't pour from an empty cup.

You can't see outside the picture when you're inside the frame,

you can't see the forest from the trees,

all of those sayings or true.

I was accompany Dumpty,

broken into a million pieces,

trying to make everybody else happy.

You know,

friends, family,

whoever. And if they were happy and they gave me that

at a girl,

then good,

then Renee's enough.

Renee is good.

Be in that to me is a form of love that,

you know,

they add a girl,

the outside validation for the inner self worth.

Like here's the another award,

another piece of paper,

my best friend.

She said,

why do you need that effing visa neighbor?

What you choose you?

Don't because I don't mean it.

Yes. A nice thing to have.

We like to have like,

do you need it?

She was Renee.

You don't.

Well, no.

And you don't.

And like,

it feels good for the minute because people are acknowledging what

you've done.

But if it's almost worse,

because if you get these acknowledgements,

but inside,

you're not feeling the same way.

Like if you worked your butt off and you won sun

sales room award,

let's say,

but you know,

you put in the time and you worked in the number,

show it.

And you also believe it because you know,

that's amazing.

It's nice to get accolation and it's nice to know you

did hard work and it is recognized if there is a

contrast, like if you're getting awards,

like it sounds to me that was your situation.

But inside what you're feeling conflicts with the acknowledgement,

I think that's almost worse because if they aren't in alignment

with each other,

so which one is true?

Oh, very insightful.

So, so that is what I was believing.

The word believe also has the word lying.

So my own lies my own limiting beliefs.

The word believe has the word lie in it.

Yeah, Because they are the stories that we tell ourselves.

And then we act on those toys with our behaviors and

then our words and our actions.

They all go in alignment with that lie that we tell

ourselves to be good enough.

I need to do a,

B and C to feel loved.

I need to make these people happy to feel this or

to receive that I need to do ABC again.

And then you keep doing those things because you keep getting

those responses and you keep doing that and doing them and

doing them.

And then what happens?

You are getting debilitated because it becomes exhausting.

If it's not your truth,

Right? If it's that lie that you've told yourself,

because you're seeing what you think is what you want to

see, what you think is going to make you happy.

What you think is going to get the results that you

want, but inside it,

isn't really getting that.

You think about Robin Williams.

I think about him a lot.

When I talk about what I went through this man,

oh my God.

Funny people all around who loved him,

wealthy had everything gone from on TV,

running award shows,

getting awards and self everything.

What happened?

He ended up killing himself And all of us are like,

what? Right?

Exactly. But none of us knew.

I remember that.

It's like,

wait a minute,

you had it all,

Had it all.

How could this man that had it all?

Like it was a shock.

And I remember watching Mork and Mindy and all these shows.

He was like,

oh my God,

this guy that outside again,

outside, we're seeing the outer hand that he was portraying,

putting out there into the world of who he wanted to

be known and seen as.

And he did an amazing job at it.

But what was going inside really painful things and thoughts,

Renee, would you say the tendency for someone who does this

is, well,

if I just get more accolades and more accolades,

it will override what I'm feeling like.

I'll come to a point when it's going to be good

and I will feel it too,

when really that point doesn't exist.

Would that be a true statement?

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So beautiful.

I would say yes,

I would say yes because you keep going until you can't.

You keep this behavior because thinking it's serving you things or

findings and findings are fine until screeching halt.

They're not so fine anymore.

Or are they?

Life is just,

as it seems,

you are brought to a screeching all end.

You don't even realize it.

Cause I I'm,

I'm not saying you,

I, I can't speak for others.

I can certainly I have a voice I can speak for

me. I didn't realize it because,

and we'll talk about the book,

but in the book,

one of the chapters I wrote is old habits die hard

because mine,

it did.

When I finally got my voice back and we'll,

we'll touch on that.

Cause that's something to certainly touch about,

getting it back,

which we just hinted on.

I made promises.

I made promises to my best friend.

I made promises to myself and I made promises to the

one responsible for me being here.

God, Where they bargaining promises or where they like,

if I get my voice back,

I will Good question.

No, it wasn't that because at one point I didn't know

that it was going to be permanent when they thought it

could be.

I didn't even do the bargaining thing.

Then what I did do that,

maybe bargaining it's interesting question.

I've been on so many podcasts.

Nobody asked me that question.

That's phenomenal.

That's great question.

What I did do is I guess this is a form

of bargaining.

I did say,

and I did promise God.

So that's a bargaining and myself,

my best friend that I would be better.

I'd taken care of myself when getting my self back into

corporate. Cause when I went back after being off for four

months, I said,

I promise I will be better.

I will take the breaks.

I will take because you're allowed to take certain amount of

breaks. I didn't take them at work.

I never took the breaks.

If I took a lunch break,

I'd hurry up,

eat and come back.

If I finished in 20 minutes and back in the 20

minutes of the hour or whenever I was getting,

I did take that full time because I got more.

I had to have to have to not like,

no, you have to take care of this.

No, I have to do more.

The old habits die hard is made.

The promises,

took the time,

sat down and then the old habits died hard.

The old ways started creeping back in Because it's what you

know, So bingo.

It's what I know.

And it's what I was used to,

which wasn't so good for me because it got me in

a really bad place and very,

very sick.

I mean,

I think I was on the good trajectory for a,

maybe a couple of,

if that,

if I could be so bold that they,

maybe it was a couple of months,

I started like leaving on time because I would have dinner

with my best friend if I worked nine to six and

okay, you'll leave at six.

But I used to leave at seven at seven 30 and

then I'm eating when maybe 10 hours between my last meal.

It's like,

that's not good.

I think there are a lot of people who can relate

to some of these different facets.

And this is a big warning sign that we're putting out

to people about this.

So I want to make sure as we're talking through this,

that we're going to be able to save time for lessons

that you've learned and advice that you would share.

I know there'll be other places that they can go,

but let's keep going with,

you were mentioning there's more about your recovery stage that you

wanted to talk about.

Yeah. So thank you.

So, so it was my best friend when I was sick.

She, again,

pre COVID,

I never knew when she was coming,

but she always knew I'd be home because I wasn't allowed

out. I wasn't going anywhere.

And I was so weak.

I couldn't be the only place I went was to get

more blood work,

really? That was it.

Or if they were able to give me some viscoes that

the doctors that I picked up,

which are the pharmacy,

which was a thick kind of a thing that you supposed

to put in your throat when I couldn't even muster it

because it made me gag.

So that did work,

but I really wasn't out because I wasn't allowed to be.

So she would come to my house with a mask on.

That's why I said pre COVID cause COVID people right now.

And she would make homemade chicken that she would bring to

me, kosher chicken.

Cause I kept kosher at the time and she would go

to the market and get Gatorade or apples was things she

thought I could swallow when you can't swallow your own saliva

kits. Well,

anything else,

but the fact that that love that she came to me

with, I try to muster it down whenever I could,

because I knew she was trying to help me survive and

live and to love on me as much as she could.

So she would come in and drop it off and she

would leave.

And if it wasn't for the grace of God,

put her in my life.

And for her being in my life,

I don't think I'd be here.

And she always had me.

Don't put me on a pedestal.

Did I didn't do that?

You put yourself there because to have somebody that loves you

so much and probably more than,

I love myself and to want you to still be here

on this earth and that didn't give up.

That's why you said,

what would you put on the canvas,

but never give up because she had a bracelet that after

she passed,

I found one of her drawers on the bottom of her

drawer. Don't ask me why I went into her drawer.

I have no idea.

I can't tell you.

Why would you go into your best friend's drawer?

Who passed away?

Why? And it was on the bottom of her drawer.

I don't know.

I literally don't know.

I can't even answer that.

I had no business going into somebody else's face.

I don't know why,

but in,

there was a leather bracelet.

That's a never give up.

She wants me to have,

and I used to wear it all the time and now

I don't wear it because I was wearing it out and

I didn't want to ruin it.

So I carried it with me and my purse was zipper.

I carry my heart.

Yes. Yeah.

Thank you for sharing that.

That is I,

it gives me shivers.

Take us to the point when your voice started coming back

real quick.

And then let's talk about the learnings that you've had.

It was being quiet,

Sue and having no voice losing my voice is how I

found my voice.

How often do we have things taken away from us?

People pass people,

transition their life relationships.

And it's when we lose things.

There's a lesson in trying to find something else greater mean.

I lost my best friend,

my job of 25 years,

my father,

these are big losses.

It's like,

what could you possibly have found in their losses?

And you're losing your best friend,

your father,

your career.

And it was finding a part of myself that I want

to found because I was always dependent.

I'm getting emotion.

I could feel it depending on others for my own value

and not believing in myself.

And when you don't have those people in those things to

turn to you must do the inner work.

You must and stop relying on others for your own self-worth

to validate yourself for being enough,

because you are,

as you are.

We don't have to be where other people are at and

look at how far they've come and surf social media to

see, look at all the great things they're doing.

You don't know what's behind where they have come from,

Right? So you are enough as you already are.

That's your message.

You are enough as you already are.

Yes you are.

But do we have to go through such major loss like

you did to get to that point and that learning,

You know what you don't and that's why I do what

I do today with the coaching,

with the mentoring.

It's why I wrote the book,

finding your voice,

unlock your chains and unleash your greatness.

Can you share with us two,

three things that we can be thinking about so that when

people are done,

just listening to the podcast,

you know,

we're going to talk about your book for sure,

but that we will have helped them in some way of

something that can,

well, I don't know what you're going to say.

So I don't what I will say it could do,

but remind ourselves know about ourselves.

Maybe there's an action.

We take anything that we can give our listeners here because

I bet you,

everybody, Renee is resonating with us so strongly right now I'm

getting chills here.

So I'm sitting in shorts here and I'm getting chills.

It's because we have within us,

you know,

I resume and I didn't know why the young girl,

me member and I'm dating myself the wizard of Oz,

the story of the wizard of Oz.

It's one of my favorites.

Again, something else we share,

not as surprised we know this,

there's more for our own journey together.

So I know this.

I just know that the story of the wizard of Oz

briefly, Dorothy,

this young girl who thrust through a tornado and goes into

it, has a concussion,

as it goes into this state of being thrust somewhere else

in her life,

in this land of Oz that she's trying to get to.

And she's trying to find a way back home to Kansas

because she's,

as we say,

you're not in Kansas anymore.

She wasn't trying to get back home.

She comes across a scarecrow,

looking for the brain.

She comes across with the tin mill,

looking for the heart And the lion,

looking for the courage.

Think about these characters and she herself looking to get back.

She was looking for the Ruby slipper.

She was told she had to click them three times to

get back home scarecrow,

looking for a brain.

Guess what?

You recall the story.

So the scarecrow looking for that brain,

the 10 million for the heart,

he cried so much dark.

He had to oil him with the oil and can he

had the biggest heart there.

The lion looking for the courage,

the cowardly lion who jumped in front of the wicked witch

of the west to get the slippers,

guess what?

He had it.

We have what it is.

We're looking for.

Again, the outside validation,

which were restarted for the inner self-worth you have within you,

what you are looking for outside of you,

you each and every one of you do,

But why is it so hard to access and how do

we access it?

Y so hard to access because of how we've grown up.

Somebody somewhere along our own journey,

something happened to make us believe that we didn't have it.

And then we had to find it somewhere else.

Then we kept going back to those kinds of relationships.

Why do I always attract those relationships?

Why is it always those situations that I end up in?

Why? Because it's that inner dialogue that you've told yourself,

that the only people that are going to love you,

these are the relationships that you're going to attract.

Whether it's a friendship or relationship or somewhere,

or the jobs or whatever that thing or those things are,

because those are those joys we've told ourselves.

And we say,

you see,

there it is again.

You see,

I always end up in because that back tape that is

playing. When you're asleep,

when you are doing what you're doing,

those are the things that you are constantly running unconsciously and

subconsciously. And that is why.

Now I've written this book,

finding your voice.

It is finding that voice within unlock your cheats,

unleash your greatness.

Those are my own chains,

your own chains.

We bind ourselves up in.

It is also to unleash our own greatness that we have

had within us the whole time.

But how,

how do we do it?

Give us one or two ideas of what do you do?

Because the mind is so strong.

You can logically say any of this,

but actually internalizing it and believing it.

And another story.

So, you know,

it's why I wrote the book.

It's why I created the voice blueprint with like,

we have a blueprint in life,

right? Get your boy with a blueprint.

What about the voice print?

How was it imprinted upon you throughout your life?

Ooh, So I created a voice blueprint,

a voiceprint.

What does that mean?

So it's from vulnerability.

It takes you from vulnerability to empowerment,

vulnerability, owning your voice,

igniting that flame,

inspiration, courage,

and confidence,

to empowerment and finding your own voice and math.

What? I walk my clients through the voice blueprint that I

create for every single person,

because we are not a cookie cutter people,

either online.

Can I buy it?

You can't,

you can't buy this because it's different for everybody.

I walk you through what it looks like for you.

So when I work with clients,

I tweak it to you.

You're not the next person you're used to.

You have your own blueprint and you had your own voice

print Each and every one of us does.

We are all unique.

We all have our own.

So I think the words of wisdom here right now are,

if you're feeling in any way,

which again,

I'm going to say probably all of us do at some

level at some time,

if not all the time,

right? That the message is optimism and belief,

that things can change.

You had a dramatic situation happened that brought you to the

wisdom that you have now and consequently,

what you help people work through.

But I think the big message here,

I'm just getting it.

Now, the big message here is it is achievable.

What you're thinking to yourself,

there's a new way and a different way of talking internally

that can have major positive impact on your life.

Do I have it?

You have it.

You totally have it.

Yeah. And in the book too,

I get funny.

Your voice unlock your cheats and your greatness.

Each chapter.

I think of it like a chicken soup for the soul

book. If anybody's familiar with any of those by Jack had

Fenimore, Victor Hansen,

Diana Wentworth is also part of some of those.

She's amazing.

And it is each chapter is a story unto itself.

So the first chapter,

I introduce you to the story because I don't mind it.

I want to write a book about poor her.

She went through this once to read a sad story.

I don't want to read it.

I wouldn't get it,

but I just introduced me to,

to that.

And then each chapter is a story of what took place.

Another part of my journey.

And then I post questions every chapter with like three to

four line pages for the reader to answer,

because I wanted to write a book to serve others.

How does what I just went through in this chapter pertain

to you and your own journey?

Oh yeah.

So it's very interactive.

So you're giving your experience and then you're letting us then

take what we've just learned of your experience and relate it

to our own experiences.

And then you walk us through things in the book,

right? Yes.

Oh my gosh,

Renee. Okay.

Where are we going to find this book?

So there's a few ways.

The first way you can go to Amazon and it's there

on Amazon,

there is the paperback and the Kindle I'm going to recommend.

And I'm going to tell you why I'm recommending it.

Anybody. I know we always see information either kinesthetically,

you know,

auditorily, visually,

if you're able to get the physical book is $9 and

99 cents.

I purposely did that.

You need the physical book because you want to write in

it. Yes.

That's the reason.

Yeah. That's exactly it.

And there's another piece to that.

Not just because you want to write in it that's the

biggest thing,

but because I've already had people tell me who,

I didn't even know that I met along my own journey

that were recommended.

The book would recommend it to them.

Like Renee,

I read the book.

I go back.

I have so many books,

one gas.

And we,

because I've so many books at my house,

yours and my nightstand.

I'm like why?

She's because I do a different exercise every night.

And I go back to them and we do these exercises

because they are so powerful and empowering.

And you can see how far you've come.

We don't give ourselves enough credit.

Especially as women where you were,

when you answered the first time,

how would you answer this question?

The first time?

This is where it was.

But then go back a week,

two weeks,

a month,

six months a year later,

how would I answer it now?

Did we give ourselves enough credit for how far we've come?

Just that,

no, you still don't do this.

You sit into that.

Look at this person.

Look at that person.

Look how far they are.

You're still doing this.

Wait a minute.

How did I answer that question?

On 6 22,

22, that powerful number.

How did I answer it?

Oh my gosh.

How would I answer it today?

Not the same.

Yeah. That's something.

And what is the name of the book?

When we go search for it,

Finding your voice is the title.

Then the subtitle unlock your chains and unleash your greatness.

When you put in the whole thing.

Cause if you just put finding your voice,

I did that and there were other books called finding your

voice. I'm like,

that's not mine.

Where's my book.

And then you put funny your voice,

colon, unlock your chains and unleash your greatness.

The other way to search the book is to put my

first and last name in because I'm the only,

that's written this book.

So it's R E N E R E I S C

H rice.

And the other way to find the book is just to

go to the show notes because I will have a link

there so that you make sure to get the right one.

All right,

wonderful. And Renee,

where else online,

could someone intercept with you and learn more about you?

I'm on Facebook is my main one most on Instagram.

I'm going to leave you my link tree Sioux and the

show notes too,

because they can find all my social media connections there.

And I am more than happy to get with them.

They can message me on messenger too,

if they would like to chat.

My calendar link is also on my link tree.

We put your website and social accounts in the show notes

individually. So they'll all be there.

So anyone who's listening,

I know you're probably not just sitting with a pen and

paper in hand,

drought, walking,

you're straightening your shop,

you're making product,

whatever it is,

go back and look at the show notes and you'll be

able to get the links to everything.

But I will add in the link to your book because

that's really important for our conversation today.

And the other thing is that I'm offering on the link

tree. There's a 10 steps to find your voice.

They can download that.

Also I offer every one of your people listening,

a 30 minute complimentary consultation with me.

Okay. How would they get that?

And how long is that valuable till because remember podcasts lasts

forever. So I always want a deadline on things because they

can't go out into imperpetuity or whatever that word is.

So where could people find a 30 minute consultation with you?

That's going to be on my link tree and my calendar

link is there.

So I will need the link tree there.

I'll give you the link tree.

You put it in the show notes and they just will

mess it's to one of the questions to sign up,

to work with me.

It says,

where did you hear of it?

And they could say,

Sue's show.

And I'm like,

okay, I got it.

And I know that,

yeah, I will give them that.

I would give them that for sure.

Wonderful. Well,

Renee, this has been such an energizing,

empowering and inspiring conversation,

and I'm really glad,

I didn't know the whole story beforehand.

So I got to experience it just like everybody else here,

listening and super,

super impactful.

It's going to give me some things to think about for

sure. Thank you so much for coming on today.

Just like opening up the curtain to your life and what's

happened and sharing in detail,

all of your information.

I so appreciate you.

Thank you for coming on the show today.

So thank you so much for how the meat really has

been an honor,

a pleasure and a true privilege because I know that getting

my voice back,

it was to be able to share it with others and

help them in their journey of finding theirs.

If this episode brought up emotions for you that you intuitively

know need to be addressed,

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