156 – Our High School Students are Starting Companies with Rebekah Peter of RADD-Tees

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Today. I'm so excited to bring you Rebecca Peter of rad

teas. Red teas is an art t-shirt company.

High school students submit designs via the website,

and then they print the designs on t-shirts.

Part of the revenue of each shirt goes to the artist

who created the design.

And then some also goes to the student's high school art

department. This provides a win-win for everyone involved,

the artists have their images available to the world.

The art department gains additional financial support,

and we all get to wear some really cool t-shirts Rebecca,

thank you so much for joining me and welcome to the

show. Thank you for having me.

So it's great to be here.

So you are a high school senior,

and you along with some other people are starting this really

fun business,

right? Our business incubator class.

Well, before we go into all of this,

I'm so excited to hear the story,

but before we do that,

I know this sounds a little crazy,

cause adults can be crazy sometimes,

but I want you to describe yourself by way of a

motivational candle.

So if you were to think of a color,

either just for yourself,

Rebecca, or your team there,

that would speak to you,

and then also a quote or a saying on the candle,

what would it look like?

Tease our quote.

We'll be reviving our departments daily because rad we spell it

to these.

So the daily departments make it up and favorite color wise.

I think I have to go with T Oh and my

teal color.

Okay. So rad teas,

take it from the beginning.

How did this start?

Me personally,

I moved to Barrington school as a junior,

so I didn't know anyone.

And I joined this class called business incubator and it was

actually a really great class because as a new student,

you don't really want to talk to anyone,

especially as a junior.

You're kind of like,

I don't know anyone.

I felt awkward,

but being in this class,

it really allowed me to speak to other like students and

have fun.

And what we do is we get into groups of five

and in those groups we actually get to start our own

company. So I got to meet a ton of different and

new people.

It was really great.

And we decided as a,

that we wanted to make t-shirts our t-shirts because we noticed

that in high schools that you see sports teams like football

players and the basketball team,

they get much more funding than art students,

which we didn't believe was fair.

So we wanted to help fix that problem,

which is where comes in.

Because as you said earlier,

for every shirt sold,

the art department gets some of the money along with the

artists. So we worked through this all last year and eventually

in may,

we met with a board of investors and they gave us

$10,000, which was fantastic.

So your initial group of how many are there five of

you? Yes.

Did you get to choose your group or were you assigned

into groups?

Okay. It's weird to explain,

but people kind of just adjusted who they wanted to be

with and the teacher would move around who he thought would

work best.

So shout out to Mr.

Slovakian. If you're listening to this,

you did a great job.

Perfect. Okay.

And so tell us the makeup of your group.

So there's another Rebecca record she has.

And she's a senior,

along with me.

We have two juniors or three juniors.

We have Lily Murphy,

max Rayner,

and Mar Diorio.

So they will be taking over next year.

Oh good.

So you see a future for this too,

which is awesome.

Yes. And so while you are putting this together,

how did that work?

Cause this is going to be interesting,

not only in terms of how a business develops,

but you guys working as a team together to where you

guys looking at lots of different types of business ideas,

or did someone present one and you guys are all like,

that's it Good?

Initially we were starting off with like knife guards.

We were really boring.

We decided we would rather do something completely like really fun.

I mean,

just look at me wrong,

but like we wanted to do something like fun and like

sort of cool for high schoolers.

So I guess art was like our main reason.

Cause we always,

we can do art.

We're not artists that our group really.

Oh, that's interesting.

But you saw the opportunity you saw where it could really

benefit. And so then you pulled together.

So you had the concept,

what happens next?

What was your next step after just getting the concept?

So after funding,

it was more just getting the word out there because we

were our little community of Barrington here,

but we needed to spread our word.

So we were just talking to other high schools,

our departments and trying to get them involved along with us.

And today we have seven high schools with us,

Seven high schools.

Perfect. But way back in the beginning,

did you have to figure out how are we going to

print on these shirts?

Where are we going to get these shirts?

There was much trial and error with us.

Initially we were actually making the shirts ourselves cause we were

high schoolers leaning to have a lot of money.

I mean,

like we got funded in may,

but from August up till around may,

we were making the shirts ourselves.

So we bought ourselves a key pressed in one of our

group members basement,

just print it away.

And then we are mailing them ourselves.

You figured out a way of taking someone's art from the

website, transferring it over then to be able to press on

to the t-shirts.

Yes. Now we do have funding.

So we're able to go through a company and make things

much easier on ourselves.

Right. Okay.

So we're staying back with the heat press.

Okay. So the heat press,

you guys are doing it all yourself.

And at that point,

did you have seven high schools join in or were you

still just your single high school at first?

So at that point,

I think we had around four high schools.

So we've just gained three new ones recently.

Okay. And when you were initially starting an order would come

in and then how were you guys working within a team?

Did you guys divide up into different people?

Like certain people took orders,

certain people produced the product,

certain people shipped or how was your team organization for that?

So like there was five of us last year.

So I think one of us would order all the supplies.

One of them will make the shirts and the other three

of us will like drive out to people's houses and deliver

them. Okay.

And how does it work in terms of the pricing?

So Is $20,

which may seem high at first,

but when you factor in that we're giving back to our

departments and artists,

it like is not as much actually.

Right. When people know the cause and know the story,

it'll justify the price all the time.

Yeah. Then they're more open to the idea.

Yeah. So you just built up your costs in terms of

how much t-shirt was going to be all the different prices

and then figured out also there was something significant enough to

go to the art departments.

And so then you went from there?

Yes. Okay.

So now let's talk about presenting to possibly get funding because

this is very similar to shark tank,

right? Did you guys identify that this was an opportunity?

Did it come through the school program or what happened with

that? This is a school program.

So initially what you're doing is there's five groups where each

a business incubator class,

and everybody has to give a pitch at the end of

the year.

Most people do of our grade because that's how you get

grade in the class.

But if your pitch is well enough,

the investors will notice you.

And there'll be a final pitch after that.

So for the final pitch is just the top five groups.

So we were one of those five groups that was able

to pitch to them.

And we were just lucky enough to get funded along with

another group.

So two groups were funded last year.

Oh, that's awesome.

Well, congratulations.

That's so cool.

Thank you.

Let's talk about getting ready for a pitch because gift biz

listeners, I'm also thinking this is kind of similar to when

you're going out and getting corporate business or you're looking at

having your product placed in a store or something.

So let's talk Rebecca A.

Little bit about how did you prepare then for the big

pitch? We'll just jump right to that.

So forget about pitching in your classroom.

Cause that was a class project.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah. So now you're entering like the quote unquote big time.

What did you do?

How did you figure out what you needed to prepare for

the pitch Outfits?

I would say,

be aware of what you're wearing like for us,

for since we're t-shirts we got to wear t-shirts and we

just had nice skirts on or whatever.

So for your company to be what you're wearing and also

you should be able to talk loud.

Like I've been blessed with a loud voice where it doesn't

sound like I'm ever whispering.

So that worked in my favor.

Cause you want to be able to show that you are

competent in this.

You don't want to seem scared.

And I contact make eye contact with them.

Cause they like that.

This is good Rebecca.

So what,

in terms of content,

how did you decide what your pitch was going to look

like? So there was like certain criteria we needed.

They gave you the criteria.

Yes. Okay.

So like there was criteria,

but you can change it.

How you'd need it to change it.

Financial wise,

everybody needed to have certain financials,

what they were like projected to be or what they thought

they would be in five years,

because that's important seeing if your company will last that long

and you should have a plan after five years.

Like our plan was to see if we can sell to

another company,

our idea eventually.

So you want to have a plan in general,

what you're doing in the future.

They just want to see that.

And so then you were financials was a growth plan for

the most part?

Yes. Okay.

Did you go in with any hook statement in the beginning

or anything like that for your presentation?

That was in may?

I gotta think back,

honestly, we probably just gave her some again.

I'm not sure.

Okay. So how did you prepare beforehand?

I'm sure you were nervous,

even though you said you got to speak loud and be

confident and all of that did all five of you have

a role.

And did you practice together or how did that happen?

So we all had a role and maybe it was just

me. Like I was scared,

but I wasn't as scared because like I said,

we've been doing these presentations in class,

but not like in front of the board,

we are doing a presentation once a week and our teacher

he's one of those teachers that like,

he gets on your back,

like 24 seven,

like he's like,

that's not correct.

I need you to fix this.

Now we felt like ready to speak.

If that makes sense,

there was preparation,

but there wasn't a lot that we needed to practice 24

seven because we felt good about it ourselves.

Well, and you also used to speaking then too.

Yeah. So work in our favor actually.

Yeah, it was good.

Yeah, For sure.

You're right for the shout-out to the teacher,

because that really did prepare you.

Yeah. Really changed our lives.

Yeah. Really seriously.

Did you get to see the other people who pitched for

the final?

Yes. Cause you're sitting in the auditorium,

you're just kind of going up and then sitting back down,

listening to them and at the end they present.

Oh, so you find out then in there who wins?

Who the two are that win?

Yes. It was definitely nerve wracking.

Just waiting.

I'm sure.

Did you guys already register the company as a formal company

at that point?

No. We registered in the summer because it's like,

after you get bonded,

they invite you to a summer program to be in the

year two class.

So before going to the year,

two class,

you had to be part of the summer program.

So that's what we did.

All of our legal work and everything.

Got it.

So only the people who pass through and got funding then

go on to the year two class.

Yes. And if you really like a really good student in

the one class,

you can be hired into one of the other companies.

Cause there's not just our company.

There's a few other ones from the previous years who are

just keep hiring students.

Sure. And just like you said,

you've got a few juniors who will be continuing on carrying

on the torch for you guys,

if you will.

Yes. Perfect.

So tell me,

and you're going to be truthful,

right? Rebecca,

hopefully share with me some type of a challenging problem that

you guys had to overcome to get to the point of

funding or even after funding getting to where you are now.

Oh, that's easy.

I don't need to lie about that.

We have the difficulties of marketing.

That's simple enough for me to say weren't getting has always

been something that we've struggled with,

but we're working on it every day,

all day.

So marketing In what manner?

So just like in general getting our word out there because

people know us,

but not as well.

I feel like.

So we're trying to be more consistent on social media and

have scheduled posts and just scheduling more events.

Cause there's a lot of events in town that we code

and be a part of.

So we're trying to get a part of those and just

things like that.

Just little things that could help our company in a big

way. Do you have an overall marketing plan?

Alrighty. Have you guys worked on all that?

Yes. We're working on one and we're also working with someone

from Infinium marketing.

We have connection there.

So he's been helping get into other programs and like fixing

around our website and seeing what he thinks needs to be

changed. And he just gave me a suggestion.

So we're thankful for that.

Perfect. And building a business specially for you guys,

it's just a step-by-step process.

You learn one thing and then you perfect that then you

go on,

you do something else and et cetera.

And the one thing that you guys did right in the

beginning, which was so great is you showed that there was

a market for the product because you were getting people buying

these products and I'm thinking it was over and above just

family and friends,

right? Yes.

I actually didn't tell my family about this because I wanted

to see what I could do myself,

because I didn't want them to buy any shirts.

I want to see how many sales I can make myself

with this company before I like told them if that makes

sense, because I knew what my parents obviously buy a shirt

because they want to support me.

But I just wanted to see for myself how many I

could do by myself.

Are you talking about way in the beginning?

Oh yeah.

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How were you getting the word out?

Just yourself to prove the point?

I'm sure we bothered a lot of people,

but we sent out emails all the time.

Eventually they had to respond back and they were interested emails.

Yeah. That was our original way.

Emails to who?

Any one that was in high schools and just artists.

So we will have like teachers recommend who they thought would

be. Like they would think that they want to be a

part of our company.

Things like that.

Got it.

I would imagine by nature because you are promoting to artists

that if they have their art,

then on a t-shirt they're going to be telling all their

friends, Oh my gosh,

this company is producing.

My art was selected and now it's on a t-shirt.

Right. So I'm assuming naturally then business would come in back

then. And even in the future business will come in that

way. Yeah.

It's great.

It's great business model.

Yeah, they do.

They're really good about getting their word out.

Some of them are a little shy about it because I

don't know the,

feel a little reserved about their art,

but that's fine.

But everybody has their way of getting their art out there.

I feel like the way they do it.

Yeah. You are also promoting the whole concept in total.

So any artist that's a little shyer doesn't need to worry

about. They could totally just tag us and we'll do it.

Yeah. Talk to us a little bit about Facebook and how

you're using Facebook right now.

I get that it's a work in progress,

but what are you doing now?

Facebook completely is a work in progress at the moment.

We had a restart our page,

mostly because it just wasn't as organized as we want it

to be.

So we shut it down and we started up a new

page and we're working on that.

But our Instagram is more efficient at the moment.

And we noticed a lot of like high schoolers actually use

Facebook. So it works in our favor.

But if we're talking to like our department heads,

we have to like fix our Facebook up.

Cause they're their main ones I use Facebook.

What would you say in this will be good just for

all of us to understand.

What do you think was not as good with your first

Facebook page?

We just did impose as often.

I've gone being honest and it sounds really bad when we

forgot the password,

you'll be fine.

We're just going to restart a new one and we're working

on making it more up to date and just cleaner looking.

Cause their incident,

we feel like it has a theme.

We're just like constantly posting about other people and like what

they feel about our company.

Got it.

You do bring up a good point.

You say like,

Oh my gosh,

I don't want necessarily say,

but I am quite sure that there are some people listening

now who were like,

yeah, that's kind of me too.

Whether it's they don't have their password or they've just left

the account dormant for awhile.

Yeah. I also think it has to do with like our

generation in general because our generation tends not to go towards

Facebook. I feel like we look towards Instagram and Twitter.

So those are something we just use more.

Right. Why do you think I'm going to go to Instagram

in a second,

but why did you decide you needed to start another?

Was it because you just didn't know the password so you

could? Yeah,

I think that's it.

For the most part,

I didn't really work on the Facebook page.

Another one of my group members said,

so I'm not sure that all the details,

but I think that's what went down.

Okay. So Instagram is going for you.

Well, yes,

you're using hashtags on Instagram and all that.

I didn't actually look at the account before we started talking,

so I don't know.

Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah. We use a few hashtags.

Are you seen that?

You've got any more of a following there now?

Oh yeah.

We noticed when we go to like big events,

that's when we get our most views,

I think a couple of weeks back,

we went to the Illinois high school art expo and it

was just a really big art event.

And we got a ton of use about that and we

were getting a lot of sales too from Chicago high.

So that was great.

Okay. So you could relate going to the event and then

posting about the event and then just because of the timing

of the way the sales were coming in,

you could attribute that back to your Instagram.

Yeah. Cause I feel like on those days,

that's when we're talked about the most.

So people are more likely to look us up.

So they look us up and we get more views.

We notice rather than if we just do a random post

of teacher.

So that's great.

So you are going to event definitely post about it because

you will get more views.

Are you doing live also,

you're doing like Instagram stories or Facebook live or any of

that? Yes,

We do do a few Instagram stories.

Not as much because we've been working a lot in class

rather than outside at the moment.

But whenever we go to like events or we're just doing

a little echo or something,

we will definitely post about it on our stories And do

behind the scenes things too.

I mean,

I think some of your stuff,

like in class,

depending on what the school allows you to do,

I guess not sure what the rules are of this.

He doesn't really like,

Oh, and sadly,

so he thinks they're a distraction and that we should be

working solely on our company.

So that's good though.

It does keep us on track.

Oh, for sure.

But one of the things that does work really well is

for people to get to a peak of the behind the

scene. Maybe it's even when you're on your way to events

or you're delivering t-shirts or something like that too.

People are curious.

Oh yeah,

totally. That's a good idea.

It works really well because one thing is seeing the product

and seeing you there,

but like how has it made like website issues?

Everyone's just curious about what's happening behind the scenes.

So when you're doing the high school expo,

is that kind of like,

I would think of with a table set up and you've

got your product there and you're just showing people and then

if they want to take orders,

you can take orders there too.

Is that what the setup is there for an expo?

So our most recent one was at the Zubie art center.

So it was a huge art gallery and it was just,

it was strictly art related and it was tables,

but everybody kinda had their own section,

if that makes sense.

And it was really interesting because a lot of our people

that were there were there for also an art show because

they were invited and they were high schoolers.

So there was a lot of people here.

So it was great.

We sold so many shirts.

They were just totally interested in our idea.

And it was just something that they hadn't heard of.

So they were definitely interested in it.

It was great.

So it was mostly tables for the most part,

They were coming to you and you had a designated area.

So you had your product displayed and all of that.

You had a right by the window.

So we were lucky.

Oh yeah.

You were lucky people like the windows,

For sure.

Are there any learnings that you've had either interacting with people,

how to deal with customers,

how to take orders,

things that you've learned just through trial and error of working

a show,

Don't be shy.

I mean,

I personally I'm an extrovert,

so it worked out so I'm very open to talking to

people. So just like talk to them,

don't be shy at all.

And I don't know how to explain it.

Look at their interests with their interests.

If they look like they're interested in art,

like for us,

we immediately go and talk to them and they always reply

back with it's okay.

I don't want to do this or yeah,

I'll totally do this.

So there's no harm in asking.

I'd be like,

just always feel free to ask someone We're taking the initiative.

Then you were just sitting back behind the table,

waiting for people to come to you.

You were looking to see if it looked like people were

interested and then trying to engage them.

Yeah. Like if I go to a booth,

I realized I'm not going to ask a person a lot

of questions personally.

That's just not what I would do.

So I figured just switch positions around.

I'll be the person in the booth,

asking the questions,

see what happens,

Five of you go to all the events.

So you break it up or it Last year we did

that this year.

We're kind of switching it up.

If someone's busy that day,

it's fine.

We can totally switch around rotations on who wants to go

to why we're pretty open with that.

Now I think last year everybody was kind of like,

they were really into it.

We never been to expos like this.

So we were really confused.

We wanted to learn more.

Now we kind of have the hang of it and we're

like, it's fine.

We can totally switch it all rotations and all that.

Oh, that's a good thing.

Just for our listeners to hear too,

is you walked into something that you really didn't know,

but you still did it.

You still went there and then you revise and perfect your

processes. You go,

and I'm guessing that of your team.

Some people really like to interact with the public.

Like it sounds like you do.

And then other people like to take the backseat.

Maybe they're the ones who like to work on the website

or do the behind the scenes things.

Do you see that within your team?

We do separate jobs like that,

but we're all actually very open,

which I'm noticing now.

That's actually,

I never noticed that before we are very open as people

we're not very closed off.

That's good.

I guess that's good.

Yeah. What about what happens after a customer buys a t-shirt

do you do anything to stay in touch with them in

the future?

Sure. So certain people we do,

like for example,

we're with Lincoln park high school and they submitted a ton

of art to us for an art project that they were

doing. So as a group,

like there's like a giant mass email.

We send out to them being like,

okay, your art's on our website.

Feel free to buy it and have like sell it to

other people.

And if they do,

we're like,

okay, good job with the selling,

thank you for everything.

And then we will continue to update them on what's happening

with their project specifically.

So like things like that,

we do individual customers.

We don't,

but we have like,

when you click on our website,

it'll give you the option to be a part of our

email list,

which will then give you updates.

So in a way we do,

but personally we like,

if we want to personally email someone,

it will be probably in a mass email,

something like Lincoln park,

You are attracting the emails from people who have bought t-shirts

from you or they have to initiate it.

We typically initiate it.

It's good that you do in that because so many people

confuse getting emails because these are people who are familiar.

They've been an artist you like in some way,

they've linked with you.

And lots of times people confuse that.

Having emails with the following people have on social media,

like who is looking at your Instagram account and all of

that. And the problem with that is if Mark Zuckerberg decides

to change the algorithm again on Facebook or your account gets

shut down.

For some reason,

you have no way of contacting any of those people.

So when you have emails,

those are things that now red T owned.

Those are ways to connect with people who have interacted with

your business.

So that's really valuable,

way more valuable than however many followers you have on social

media. So kudos to you because a lot of businesses don't

think that way.

So good job for you.

Is there anything else that you can think back that you

wish you would have done differently getting to the point that

you guys are at right now?

I feel like if I changed everything,

everything would be different.

I kind of like though everything is so I'm trying to

think. I don't think there's much.

I changed.

I liked my group.

I like the way we're working together.

I feel like everything goes pretty well.

But if you are working with a group,

I just suggest that you get to know your group.

So like you do like that.

If you're working with some,

you don't like,

I feel like that would have worked out well.

I'm thankful for that.

I have a group that I like.

I totally agree with that.

The other thing that I really wanted to bring up,

I forgot to do it.

When you were mentioning earlier,

did it feel weird to you that you were just building

a business,

but they were asking you for what your future plans were

and you were already talking about selling it.

Did that feel weird?

It was a little weird because we didn't even have the

company. We were talking about selling it.

So in a way I was like,

Oh, okay.

But it was good research in my opinion.

Cause it is something you had to think about because there

are scenarios where that might have to happen,

where you might have to sell.

So I think it was a good chance to do some

research on that and see what we should do.

Have a game plan.

Ready. Very good.

We talk about that a lot too.

You might never sell,

but if you have any idea that you might,

there are some things that you do when you get started

that you might do just a little bit differently with the

end game in mind that you might sell,

like one of my businesses,

I am setting up to sell down the road.

And so my systems have to be different within my business.

Right? Because I want that paperwork to be able to be

tracked. I don't want to combine the two businesses together.

The financials need to be different,

you know,

just crazy things like that.

Have you guys ever run into a situation where you've had

an issue with a customer With a customer?

I don't think we have,

we have had issues with artists occasionally here and there where

they were wondering why there are wasn't on our website,

but usually if you're ours on our website,

it's because there's a rubric about it being appropriate and things

like that.

So that's about it though.

And it's nothing bad.

Okay. All right.

Well you're lucky then,

because at some point you guys go on a long enough.

I mean,

just those things come up.

So I was just curious so far Been at that thankfully

So far,

so good.

Right? Yeah.

Any advice for people now,

this will be a little bit kind of different for you,

Rebecca, of course,

because you're still in school,

but any advice just going through this whole process that you've

done, maybe it's just how you feel about having red teas

as a win under your belt.

I don't know.

But is there anything that you would recommend or suggest to

people who are just starting out in business?

Yes. Don't be afraid to take risks,

honestly. Like we were making these shirts in a basement.

You can come from the bottom and end up somewhere like

you from doing nothing like that.

You can end up somewhere.

So I feel like just take the risk,

make the leap.

It's no harm done.

And what do you See as the future for red rentees

Since it's still like young,

the company in general,

just make sales at this point.

Little things like that.

I just make a few sales here and there.

I think that's it.

We're not looking too far ahead.

We're just looking a couple months.

And at this point we're just taking it easy.

Just continuing to Grow,

continuing to grow the business,

right? Yeah.

We're trying to cruise through now.

I would like to offer you to dare to dream.

I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.

It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.

So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable

Heights that you would wish to obtain.

So Rebecca,

this can either be about rad teas or this can be

just you personally.

I'm gonna let you choose on that one.

Okay. Okay.

Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.

What's inside Your box.

I think in the future,

I would like to go into business.

So I would like to be able to start my own

business and just have it be successful.

I think that's just like my one goal and hope.

Wonderful. And what is next year?

Hold for you college.

Have you decided yet?

Not yet.

I have a few more months,

but like I have some options.

How are you going to be away from home?

That's what I'm not sure about.

Do I want to go somewhere and like Michigan or,

and say yes.

So I have a few months I'll decide then rad teas

wise, I'll still try to stay involved of call as much

as possible.

See how my team members are doing It's you and Mark,

who are both seniors right Now,

Mark the junior.

Me and there's another Rebecca.

So Rebecca and Rebecca are seen two Rebecca's are off.

Yes. And you guys could be like the board or something.

Yeah. Like advisors Or consultants or something.

Cause I'm sure this is now your baby.

I'm sure.

Just leaving.

It would be terrible,

especially since things are going so well.

I mean,

we all have a portion of equity in the company,

so just be hiring younger students to see what they're doing

with it.

So, I mean,

it's great.

We were still all involved,

not as involved as we probably would like to be involved

in a way.

So thankfully wonderful.

Well, this has been so interesting to hear from someone younger.

So just your perspective on things is really interesting.

You guys have some really solid business tactics down,

which is great to hear and this whole idea of creating

the businesses now within our high schools is fabulous.

So I really appreciate you coming on,

sharing all the information and taking some time out of your

day for us and really appreciate it and all the best

to you and everyone involved with red teas.

Thank you.

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