102 – Fabscraps and Fab Biz Advice with Brigitte Wimbush

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Hi, there it's Sue and welcome to the gift biz unwrapped

podcast, whether you own a brick and mortar shops sell online

or are just getting started,

you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your

business. And today I have the joy of introducing you to

Bridgette Wimbush of fab scraps for GE has a fine art

and graphic design background and has been in the advertising industry

for over 20 years.

Astonishingly within 12 years,

path scraps has grown from what started off as a small

venture in a loft by two sisters,

into the largest craft and fabric manufacturer in Africa,

crab scripts.

Factory employers are predominantly from the bassoon Tal region,

Fab scripts has strived to transform the lives of many of

these men and women by providing and mentoring career resilient programs

and assisting them in growing within the company today,

the theft scraps collection are,

has vast and varied as the people of their rainbow nation.

And as a result,

the brand has become one of the most recognized in South

Africa and across the globe.

All my word,

Bridgette, I am so excited to hear more.

Welcome to the show.

Thank you,

Sue. It's lovely to be on the show.

Thank very much for inviting me And I cannot believe that

you're sitting in Africa,

I'm sitting in Chicago and we can have this conversation.

It's fantastic.

Modern technology has really moved forward For sure.

I like to start off.

It's a little bit of a tradition here to have you

describe yourself in the way of a motivational candle.

So if you were to create a candle that was all

about you,

Bridgette, what color would it be and what would be the

quote on your candle?

You know,

soup, I'm sorry,

but I really,

really can't choose one color.

I'm a creative and color rules.

My life,

our dress every day in a different color,

because depending on what I'm going to do,

that's gotta be more creative.

Then I use reds and bright colors and pinks and yellows.

And if I've got to be more serious than I tend

to dress more in blacks and blues.

So I'd like to say I've got a multi-colored candle.

Is that okay?

Okay. It's okay.

This is all about you.

So whatever you want is good.

That's great.

And you don't,

there's two motivational factors that really do stick with me just

about every single day of my life.

And the one is I did not wake up today to

be mediocre because there's no point what's the point of getting

out of bed if you're not going to do something fabulous

that day.

And the second one,

which tends to be move a family one because all of

us kind of live by it is that failure's not an

option. And that was when the Apollo 13 was launched.

And Kat said to his crew,

failure's not an option.

And I just have lived by those two quotes is that

I'm going to be fabulous and failure's not an option.

And I think they go hand in hand.

Yeah, they certainly do.

You're going to stretch the limits by not just being mediocre

and you're going to be successful in that stretch period.

Nothing else to say about that.

It's just going to be.

Well, you and I met at the New York now show,

I was actually scoping and I'm telling,

I'll give his listeners this.

So you kind of understand and get grounded here.

And those of you who were viewing the scope,

remember this,

you're all saying,

I want to know more about the story,

make sure she gets on the podcast.

And so then I rallied you up and made you commit

to it,

live on Paris,

go, right?

Yes, you did.

So people who were not seeing that scope though,

may not totally understand yet what fab scraps is about.

So let's start with that.

What is the business and what is the product that you

offer? Okay,

so we are creative manufacturers.

We manufacture everything to do with Croft.

So it goes from paper to card making to DIC APOs

to fabric fabrics,

quite new.

It's only two years old.

We do kits.

We sell individual products.

We're introduced 60 new products a month.

So the team is constantly busy.

There's no time with slacking off at all.

They're constantly preparing new stuff and we work six months in

advance. So you always gotta be ahead of the game and

make sure that you are on top of the new and

creative lines that are coming out.

You got to follow trends.

So it's a very exciting business to be in and that

I'm loving it.

It's stressful,

but I'm loving it every day.

Okay, perfect.

So now that we've kind of grounded everybody in terms of

what you do.

I want to jump back now 12 years,

how did this start?

In the very beginning I have four children and my third

child was when I went,

I gave birth to my third child.

I decided I wasn't going back to the advertising industry.

I just wanted to spend more time at home,

but always been a very busy person.

And I then started working on the clients that I had

been working on for the last 12 odd years.

I carried on working with them.

And then when my first child was born,

I decided,

hang on.

You know,

I realized that the third child,

when you're working from home,

you're feeding your child.

You bothering them,

you get disturbed quite a lot.

I used to get paid per hour.

And so I wasn't earning as much as I really wanted

to earn.

So I decided I've got to find something that can make

me money while some also looking after children and stuff like

that. So my sister and I,

we used to work together and the advertising side of things.

And we then decided that there was no one that was

introducing or making locally made products in South Africa for the

crafter, like beautiful papers shouldn't we try it out.

So we decided that in our spare time in the advertising,

we would start creating this.

And it just took off from there.

We started in a loft above my garage,

just the two of us.

And then it just grew and grew and grew.

And eventually we hold in my mum and dad who are

both, one's a bookkeeper,

one's an accountant,

which is absolutely perfect.

And we drew them into the company and then it just

grew from there.

We've now got about 25 employees factory.

We moved into a factory once the kids were at school

and it's just grown.

We've actually just recently moved again.

We needed a bigger premises and it's just grown beyond our

wildest dreams.

It has grown,

but it hasn't been without a stresses.

I'm not saying that this has been a smooth ride.

This has been a bumpy road all the time.

Yeah. I'm so glad you say that because people can see

the result and can hear you and hear the result.

And it sounds like,

Oh, well,

you know,

they just decided to start a business and here it was,

and now they've got 25 employees and on and on it,

it doesn't work that way.

It does not give us a little bit more detail.

So you're sitting in the loft with your sister and you

have this idea and I'm quite sure you did know how

to make paper when you started.

No, I would have known how to make paper because remember

it being advertising,

I was used to print and designing for print and designing,

according to a brief.

Now I didn't really know much about the craft industry,

but as a designer,

I can work by a brief.

So we started investigating the scrapbooking,

the card making that's,

where it started was the scrapbooking.

And it was 12 by paper.

We had to find some acid free and lignin free paper,

which we duly found.

And then we started designing.

But I mean the design,

I mean,

if I look at my first collection,

I actually just want to die.

It was so revolting,

but you know,

it seemed to sell a bit,

but we had already jumped in.

So now the,

you know,

we've put the money behind it.

So now we've got to just keep it going and learning.

So, I mean,

we seriously worked hard trying to make sure that we got

the right product mix and we got the right designs going

and created our own signature,

which is what we needed.

We didn't want to copy what anyone else was doing.

We wanted to do our own signature from South Africa and

for the South Africans.

Cause that's where we started was for the South Africans.

We weren't even thinking about a worldwide launch at all.

We were just looking at South Africa at that stage.

Two things that I want to point out that were really

smart, that you did is number one,

because you didn't know crafting,

but you already had a skill.

So gift biz listeners,

if you are in a nine to five job,

now you may be picking up skills along the way that

you're going to be able to use as you grow your

business, because you don't have to just jump ship and start

something. You can start building it on the side as well.

Yeah. But so you were then investigating the crafting field and

doing a lot of research behind what you were doing.

We're going to offer the X while styles working.

Wow. You were working.

Okay. And then the next thing that you did,

which is so important is you made the leap,

you took action.

You put out that first collection.

And I would say anybody who loves their first collection started

to make,

you know,

because you probably waited too long.

You should like cringe a little bit.

I cringe when I listened to my first podcast interview,

you know,

I look at old pictures of my first website.

The point is you need to just get started.

And that's what Bridgette is talking about here is you just

need to take action and get started.

Don't be paralyzed and like stuck in the mud,

just waiting for everything to be perfect.

You want to just get moving?

Because the other thing you just mentioned too,

is people were buying.

So you saw,

you were able to test it a little bit and see

that you were having an audience,

that there were people who are interested in what you're producing.

We were so terrified to launch that first range because I

mean, we thought it was good enough,

but we didn't really know enough about the industry.

I mean,

as much as research that we had done,

we didn't know enough about it,

but there was enough sold to motivate us to bring in

a second collection.

It wasn't brilliant sales,

but it was enough to say,

you know what?

I think this can work.

Let's launch the second collection and we just got better and

better. And I'd say probably the first collection that I was

really happy with probably would have been about my 11th or

12th collection.

And then now all,

yeah, all of a sudden things sort of came together for

me. I found my signature and it's sold out.

And that was,

ah, that was pop the champagne.

That was so exciting.

What I'm saying is that was a full year of serious,

hard slog and hard work.

And we pack our own orders.

This is just my sister and myself,

you know?

So we had worked really long hours and we had packed

the orders.

Eventually we got one lady in to come and help us.

And we all packed together and we,

and we brought in DACA.

And so we,

we just started growing and you start seeing what works,

what doesn't work.

And you try and limit your risk as much as you

can, as you go along,

because you don't know if it's gonna work.

I mean,

I launched a collection and I don't know if it's going

to sell or not,

but I've got it at this stage after 12 years,

I've got a fairly good idea of something's going to move

or not.

You probably a little risk a little bit more because you

have successes behind you at this point.

So, you know,

yeah. If a line,

you know,

a style,

you want to take a risk.

It doesn't quite work as well as some of the others.

All right.

Well, you know,

you've learned something And that's happened.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's definitely happened.

I take it every now and then I just get this

bee in my bonnet that I want to do something totally

different off my signature,

everything like that.

I don't think I've had many successes with those really risque

ones, maybe one or two,

but I've learned something from them.

I've been able to draw from every collection,

which then takes me into the following collection,

I think,

okay, hang on.

Let's not do this.

This wasn't a good seller.

This was a good seller.

Let's try this.

Eventually you find your way and your risks,

even though you're going to take a risk,

like I'm doing one right now,

which is quite risque,

but I'm prepared to take it.

But I'm taking all the things that I think worked,

but with a slightly different twist.

Well, and that's how you really define yourself and be different.

I know you're like everybody else,

what prompts people to come to you then?

Because they know there's going to be something that's going to

be is going to be a twist and everything that we

do. It's not going to just be straight down the line.

Well, what about those first 11 then you know,

that year of experimentation that you were doing,

what kept you driving forward?

You know,

you're seeing some sales,

but not a whole lot yet.

You know,

you say you've really landed it maybe at about 11 or

12. What kept you going?

What was the motivator that just kept you producing and testing

and producing and testing until you're ready?

Landed it.

Firstly, failure's not an option.

Okay. Which has our family motto.

All right.

So that was,

that's the first thing that got me out of bed.

And secondly,

I loved what I was doing.

I loved it.

Okay. I wasn't making any money,

but I still loved what I was doing.

And I just kept on thinking,

it's I've got to get this.

Right. It,

it was like a challenge that I just had to get

this. Right.

And I wasn't like losing heaps,

but I was losing enough to make everyone squirm,

but I just kept on thinking I can get this right.

I know I can.

I know I'm a good designer and know I can get

this right.

I mean,

there's not a formula creativity,

isn't a formula,

but I just,

you that inside,

I knew that if I worked hard enough and I drove

it and I really put a lot more effort into the

collections and did the research that I would be able to

pull it off and all of a sudden,

and I did all of a sudden,

it just came together.

I was elated.

I can't tell you that feeling.

And that feeling is what keeps you going?

It's like these boys that take golf and they have one

good shot.

And that's what gets them back on the golf course is

that, you know,

you've got it.

You've just got time to do it more times than not.

Okay. Do it again.

And you want to do it again.

And as a creator,

what you're creating and your patterns and your designs are all

originating from inside.

You it's just like all of us listeners,

you know,

whether you're knitting or you're baking or whatever,

to your creation there.

So it's a way to feel highly vulnerable.

But I love Bridgette.

I mean your passion and your confidence that it's going to

work out,

we can all hear it.

Yeah. Tell me What point then did you decide,

okay, paper's working,

I'm going to move on to something else I'm going to

add to the collection.

How did that start to happen?

Okay, well,

what was happening is that I realized,

you know,

as time went on that I had to offer more than

just paper because people were saying,

Oh, but you know,

I can't find card stock.

That's going to match this.

And I'd love to have a have you got little embellishments

that could,

you know,

with a CD collection that I could have a little lighthouse

and I could have a little sailing boat.

And this is what drove us is actually people coming to

us and saying,

we need to be able to match a collection when we're

putting a page together or card together,

we need the matching stuff.

And we thought,

well, gee,

why not do this?

Most of the stuff we try and source as much as

we can from South Africa,

those that we can't,

we design what we need to,

and we get it manufactured in China,

especially on metals.

Cause there's no one that does metals in South Africa.

So that's when we started launching into that.

And I had been to China on business with my husband.

And so I met this little when I say little girl,

I really do mean she's little,

she's like four foot five or something.

She's really little.

And I met her and she's been with us for 12

years now.

So she does all my quality control and she makes sure

that everything is happening in China.

And then,

you know,

she made sure the shipment is perfect.

And so she sends it through.

So that's how we started getting into that.

And then we realized people wanted words.

And the words that we were getting in South Africa were

really, they were small and it was basic.

We just thought it could be a lot more funky and

we could do really beautiful fonts as opposed to punched out

fonts. We then invested in our first investment.

This is after they live in,

use it.

No, it wasn't a living collection that must've been the second

or third year we then invested.

And that was a huge big step in a really,

really good laser machine.

And we started then matching our words and everything with the

collections that we were developing,

it kind of grew out of our customers' demands.

When you hear it enough times do something about it.

Otherwise someone else is gonna get it Is so great.

You are right.

Do it,

do it yourself.

Or someone else is going to do that.

Beautiful and give biz listeners,

I'm underlining this right now.

Listen to your customers.

They tell you,

instead of you sitting behind the scenes,

trying to think of what next,

ask them,

ask them exactly.

Exactly. It makes life so much easier.

Now it doesn't make it easier on fulfilling the requests,

but in terms of exactly what to do,

you're kind of creating a pre-made audience of purchasers already because

they're telling you what they want.

Yeah. That's exactly it.

And when you hear it enough times,

then you think,

okay, let's go in small Creedman don't,

don't go in huge Rouge and bring out a massive collection,

starting with just a couple and then try it out.

And if you start seeing the sales coming through there,

then you can start driving it up.

And then listen,

again, I've got to do some changes now just from customer

demand. So it changes all the time as a creative,

you always going to have to do things that are different.

It's not just like a standard product that you can manufacture

and then you just tune up hundreds and thousands of it.

Creativity is totally different.

But to be innovative,

you've got to be cutting edge.

You've got to come up with different ideas,

but all those ideas are there.

You've just got to listen.

So with your designs,

do you continue reproducing some of the more popular ones or

once they're gone,

they're gone.

Once they're gone,

they're gone.

Yeah. So you better grab it up.

If you like something,

you better grab it up while you can.

This is a mistake we made when we first started Sue,

is that what we did was because it was popular.

We got so excited.

It's sold out in three weeks or four weeks or whatever

it was.

And then we would reprint and we'd sell maybe 25% of

it. And then we're left with the other 75%.

So what I'm saying is,

is that that lesson took us a long time to learn

because I kept on reproducing because clients would come and say,

Oh, you don't understand I'm doing this cost.

Well, 50 people,

and I've got to have this paper,

so we'd go and print because we just didn't want to

let our clients down.

But it doesn't make sense in the end because you can't

sell through on a second lot enough when it comes to

printing, you can't do a minimum run because it's too expensive.

So then you wouldn't be making money.

So Is it because you're using the whole concept of scarcity

as a way to drive through and sell that whole design

line. And Since we doctored that it worked,

It just means then that you have to continually be in

the creative mode.

But as creatives,

you know,

whether you are a small creative or a big grant,

it doesn't matter if you're a creative person,

that's what you do all day.

I mean,

I don't even have to be at work and I'm creating

in my head.

That's what creative people do is that we just,

all of us just have that wonderful ability to be able

to look at trees and look at a dam.

All of a sudden we've created something different out of it.

So that's the beauty of being a creative.

I mean,

my husband's a scientist,

so he's quite envious.

Actually. He just can't go laterally at all.

He just doesn't think in that line,

that way of thinking.

And so I think,

I think that's creatives are lucky.

Yeah. Yeah.

I agree with you there.

So you have been talking so confidently about how all of

this has grown.

You've given us a little bit of idea of some of

the struggles that you've had.

And we talked right before we went live about the fact

that you were saying to me,

Oh my gosh.

If I had only known all these things right.

That I wish I would've known before I got started,

that I've learned along the way.

Can you pick out something else that was a biggie for

you that you could share with our listeners,

a struggle that you had or something that you've overcome or

some great piece of wisdom that we haven't heard from you

yet? You don't Sue.

As I said earlier on that,

if I had the knowledge I had now after 12 years,

I feel as though I've got it.

I finally finally got it,

but it's taken me 12 years to get it.

Do you know?

Because it's that whole balancing act,

which I just didn't get in those early years.

I really didn't.

I'd get so excited because I'm a creative and I love

what I've created.

And I just want to share it with 20 million people

except 20 million on interested.

You know,

there's only 1 million that might be interested,

you know?

So I've had upheavals throughout business and I've learned because we

produce so many products so fast,

we've had enormous upheavals throughout.

I mean,

we halfway through your production,

your machine crashes,

or your staff was sick or your,

those sort of hassles are just,

you just want to curl up and die and think,

how the hell am I going to get this out?

And there's one thing that I've learned.

And I feel quite calm when it comes to stresses now,

whereas before I used to freak out and didn't know what

to do,

whereas now I sort of sit back and I think,

okay, what solutions do we have?

Which one's the best for the company.

And I say that every single time,

every time some young lady walks into my office and says,

Oh, you're not going to believe what's just happened.

And then she'll tell me a Dr.

Shipment didn't go.

Or the shipment sank,

which we did have by the way,

a whole ship sank.

And I lost everything.

I know.

So that's just one of the things when they come in,

right? How do we salvage?

What is the best way that's going to minimize the cost

of the company?

And then we just look at the,

okay, there's the options,

which is the side that I didn't know about myself is

that you consider,

look at the problem and say,

right, where's the solution.

Then you pick one,

that's going to be based for the company.

Okay. It's going to save time.

It's going to save money.

You won't have made the money that you would've made.

Had it all been perfect,

but this is the best way to solve the situation.

And that has been the best thing I think I've ever

learned in the years.

I don't know when I,

I don't know which you,

I learned it and straight away I don't put up with

anymore with staff or whatever,

because they're all creative.

So they're all quite emotional people.

And they'll come in and now just say right,

come to me with solutions and then let's work out,

which is the best one for the company.

This is such great advice.

Limited. It's saved my sanity.

Better advice saved my sanity because otherwise,

as a creative,

I'm just too emotional.

I want to implode.

I've just so desperate for the stuff to get up.

I'm just no calm down.

And I just said,

rat, and it really does work.

And I think you have to just expect that everything is

not going to go smoothly.

I mean,

it's going to happen no matter what you put in place

in terms of safety and all of that,

it's going to happen.

And man,

I fear when I'm sending things over from China,

which I also have to do.

Cause I can't source everything in the States.

I try to when I can,

but you hear these stories of those containers just falling off

into the water and it just freaks me out every time

I hear that.

So, and then hearing that had happened to you.

Oh my gosh.

And I just had all these grit and the whole ship

sank, you know?

And the worst part about it is that we had done

pre-orders so I'd at least know what,

more or less what was coming in.

And so once we had reached the 50% Mark with pre-orders,

we said,

right, let's go for it.

Let's pay the money.

Let's get the shipment in and the ship sank.

So what did you do?

Okay. I was still at my emotional stage.

I cried.

Well that's allowed sometimes.

And then you get back to work,

right? Yes.

So I cried and I thought,

okay, right now,

how are we going to solve it to this?

Because all the clients that wanted the order,

they placed the order because we a Cod company,

they all paid upfront.

So now we had to reimburse them all their money,

which was seriously,

seriously tough on my cashflow.

So I reimbursed the money.

I did the right thing,

reimbursed the money and say,

right, the next shipment is going to be in eight weeks

time when the ship docks real,

then put out the invoice.

So we kind of learned that one the hard way,

you know,

you don't want to take the money upfront and then you've

spent the money.

It misses with your cashflow rather just wait until you're sure

that everything's okay and then send out the invoices and get

them to pay for it.

So it just means that you've just got to stretch your

money a little bit further,

But you did the right thing by doing right by the

customer. Yes,

absolutely. Probably didn't lose anybody because people,

even though they might not like it,

people understand that things happen too.

And by you doing what the,

in the best interest in your restaurant,

They appreciate that.

I can tell you now the customer,

we try our hardest to really zoom in on the customer

and fulfill their,

every desire.

If they need something really urgently,

I'll tell you the factory stuff,

they will break their,

and we say,

listen, this is Andrea.

That's been with us for 12 years.

She needs this.

She's got a class tomorrow and she has to have this.

Get it sit overnight tonight.

And I'll tell you,

now they'll stop at nothing.

Some of my staff,

I mean the one time we had a massive shipment that

was going out and the electricity,

we lost the electricity,

you know,

we are going to power shortages here.

And so they just shut down the electricity.

And I just sat down in the heat,

but I just burst into tears.

I just thought,

you know,

we've worked so hard to the shipment and now you're not

going to meet the deadline anyway.

So then I,

CT, everybody looked,

let's pack up.

Let's go home.

We'll deal with this tomorrow and make a decision as to

what we're going to do tomorrow.

The next day walked into the office and I couldn't believe

it. All the lights were on.

All the staff were there and I walked in.

I said,

well, what's going on here?

And they said,

the security guard had phoned them at 11 o'clock and said,

the lights were back on.

And all the staff came back and they cut the rest

of the stock and they had the shipment ready.

I promise you,

well, the,

I proud even more than,

Oh my God.

Amazing. Because they just knew how important it was.

And they just pulled out all the stops.

I didn't know anything.

I was sleeping soundly in my bed and they did that.

And it was just the most,

I was so emotional that day was just ridiculous because we

got it out in time.

And it was wonderful.

We were talking about how important it is in terms of

your relationships with your customers.

But now listen to what you just talked about,

your relationship with your employees and the factories that are working

for you,

et cetera.

They didn't even call you.

They just did it.

I mean,

that is just,

that speaks mountains about who you are as a person and

as a business owner.

It's an excellent example.

I'm so glad we got onto this topic.

I don't know if you were planning on sharing this or

not, but I'm so glad we drew it out.

It was the one order that really stood out in my

mind and the factory stock.

They're just amazing people.

And they just try so hard and they work so hard

and I'm so proud of all of them.

And you know,

we try and mentor them so that they get into a

position of knowledge and position where they can be powerful within

the company,

that they can make decisions because they've been there and they

understand the products.

So unbelievably well,

because most of them have been with me from the start.

And it's fantastic.

We've got a great relationship.

I mean,

I yell and scream and I'm mad at them sometimes.

And you know,

and they also got Wolf.

Don't worry.

They're also under stress.

But the end of the day,

we bought Kentucky fried chicken and we sit down and we

have a good laugh.

It's the highs and the lows.

But we in a creative world,

I mean,

what do you want to do?

Rep torta papers for the rest of your life,

you know?

Or do you want to actually do something creative and make

a difference in people's lives?

That's what we think we do.

This has been fabulous.

Okay. As we go on,

I want to get some more golden nuggets out of you

in a section that we call our reflection section.

It's a way to look at you as a business owner

and what types of things you innately have,

or you use to help you be successful.

So if you were to identify one natural trait that you

continue to call upon,

what would that be?

You have a work ethic.

I'm a hard worker.

That is my strongest rate.

Make sure I'm there for my family.

My husband said,

he's never even mind if he doesn't mind me working at

all. But the one thing is is that when it's family

time, it's family time and that's it.

You home on time and you switch off from work.

But when I'm at work,

I work,

I don't waste time.

I make decisions quickly.

And it's one decision I can't afford to come up with

too many different options and sit and discuss it for days

on end.

You can't do that when you're in the business,

time is money and you've got to make a decision quite

quickly and work hard.

And everyone does work on.

And we do that.

Sometimes we've worked so hard and we say,

you know what,

Friday 10 o'clock let's all stop.

And we're going to have a little lunch.

And then we all going to go home and we do

that. So it's like a little reward that you get,

but we work hard.

I would say that with all my staff,

as to why we are,

where we are now is because of sheer hard work,

obviously talent.

You've got to have talent.

I mean,

if you don't have talent,

you're not going to get anywhere anyway,

but there's talent.

And it started in my tenants.

It's all the creatives talents.

It's a collaboration.

It's not me.

We all sit as a team together and we work together

and we work hard together.

So work hard,

Play hard.

And having that separation of when you're done,

take your mind off it,

go do other types of things.

And you know,

there've been a lot of studies done lately that showed that

putting in 15,

17 hour days and working like a crazy person,

it doesn't necessarily produce any more than if you really focus

for the eight hours or whatever your business is gonna be.

That's exactly it often towards the end of the day,

when I'm getting tired and I'm backing with the design and

I just can't get it right.

And I've created it myself and I've got everyone else to

critique it and are still not happy with the solution.

I didn't just close the office.

And, and this also took me a while to learn as

well. And then I forget about it.

I'm now with my family and it's family time and totally

relaxed by the end of the evening,

you go to sleep.

You wake up in the morning and I'm not joking.

I'll go to that design.

And I'll say,

Oh, there's the problem.

And I sorted out within 10 minutes in the olden days,

I would have sat there for another three,

four, five hours trying to get it right,

forget it.

My brain is too tired.

It's it's just not working effectively and productively.

So that's why I say,

when I'm at work,

I work really hard.

And I know I get tired towards the end of the

day when I've reached a problem.

I never ever take it home with me.

I leave it and somehow dreams and sleep.

I can tell you it restores everything.

Just take that time out.

You have to,

and don't interfere with the family.

The family is so important.

I mean,

they, my backup,

whenever I'm in real trouble,

anywhere, if I'm in a,

in a Gosling meeting and I'm not having a good time

at the back of my mind,

I've always got trade school loves me trips.

The lesbian traced the lesbian.

That's my husband.

I just think all else fails.

He's the loves me.

So that's okay.

There you go.

And that's what keeps me going is that is,

is you can just leave you work.

We have work and have play and play as hard as

you work.

I mean,

I do.

I, we have a great time and it just invigorates and

it stimulation a creative person needs to get out of the

situation in order to be stimulated.

You need to get away.

I'd taken,

I know you Americans don't actually go for this,

but seriously,

I take two months.

Leave a year.

Yeah, we don't do that.

I know you don't.

So it's split up over the year,

but it's not a holiday that I haven't holidays with my

children when they're on holiday,

I take off and I can tell you,

I come back and I'm full of ideas and I'm so

creative and I'm energized.

I can't wait to get back to work.

Whereas I've been business before in my first business,

which failed.

And I used to work until midnight.

And I did that.

You're in your art and you know what?

The business still failed.

What I'm saying is that this time I haven't done that,

I've made sure I've kept it separate,

but I've kept that balance.

And I tell you,

now that has got a lot to do with the success

VR today.

I come in fresh every day,

excited every day,

motivated every day because it hasn't been working all day and

all night.

You just can't do that.

Such a great message.

And if we could all just learn that it's difficult focusing,

working when you have to,

and then taking your break and focusing on things for yourself,

being with your family,

all of that,

I naturally want to work day and not are naturally want

to do that because I love what I do and I

want to solve the problem,

but I know whatever you learned this later is that I

have to have that break for me to really be effective.

It's taken me a long time to learn that.

And I'm saying what you achieved in those six or seven

hours that you work into the night you could have achieved

in one hour the next day.

Absolutely. You have a book or some thing that you think

our listeners could find value in,

in terms of what you're doing either in business or with

your downtime.

Okay. Mon his books are strictly downtown for me,

as I say,

I've worked all day and I come back and then I'm

with my family and I've also got five dogs.

So, and that all require attention.

And so I generally on my holidays that I take,

which is my two months,

which is broken up in the kids' holidays.

And I then grab every single possible romantic book or frivolous

book or whatever book I can get my hands on.

I've just read that you before me.

And I just,

Oh, it tickled my fancy.

It was just this whimsical story about this girl.

She was so creative and she just loved life.

And she just made everyone else's life just beautiful.

And she gave a lot,

it really stood out in my mind because I thought she

just made an effort with family and friends and everybody,

it just reminded me that I'm just making sure that I

keep everyone else upbeat as well.

It was a lovely book to read.

And it just made me realize that I'm as everywhere we

go and let's just enjoy and disrespect life because it's so

beautiful. And we sometimes ruin it by overdoing things in certain

sections. I agree with you.

And I also think that by getting Way in reading some

of that too,

sometimes you get brand new ideas for your business,

just from things you're not even thinking about in that way

or reinforcement,

give biz listeners just as you're listening to us today,

right here on this podcast,

you can also listen to audio books,

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Okay, Bridgette.

Now I invite you to dare to dream.

I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.

It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.

So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable

Heights that you would wish to obtain.

Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.

What is inside this box?

That is so exciting.

I'll tell you now,

what I really,

really, really want to do is that I want to specialize

in custom made kits and just drive that where for every

occasion there'll be a different kit that you can open up

and you can put everything together because people don't have time.

Oh, I would love that.

You know,

also the staff,

they love putting these kits together to come up with different

kits and the most exciting creative kits off the wall projects.

Dan did project God makers,

but do things that are different,

totally different kids.

My passion is finite.

That's what I studied.

And I would love to involve a lot of mixed media

off the walls stuff.

We kind of known by our mannequins,

which we dress up in paper and fabric and stuff like

that. Now I want to put kids like that together,

really exciting kits so that you can,

you receive it in your home and you can put it

up on your wall.

And it's something that you've created and you've made it yours.

So that's what I'd really like to do.

It'd be really cool.

And give biz listeners.

I have a couple of photos of those mannequins.

I will put them on the show notes page so that

you can see what we're talking about.

Also on the show notes page,

there's going to be all the links that there normally are.

Two websites,

social media sites and all of that.

So you'll be able to see what Bridgette is doing.

And my guess is pretty.

You might have some of those paths.

I hear the passion passion coming through.

Oh my gosh.

Your story has been absolutely fabulous.

Thinking of you with your sister in the loft,

then taking the chance on your first collections.

Blaue through to number 11 and 12.

We really were seeing that this was clicking.

You know,

the rubber hits the road.

As we say here,

you know,

it's working for you and now to where you are right

now, you know,

such a successful company larger than you probably ever could have

imagined. So fabulous.

I wish you continued success and may your candle always burn

bright. Thank you so much.

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