216 – Handmade Business Wisdom Sprinkles with Juliet Galea of Caker’s Chat

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Pleasure to introduce you to Juliet Galeo of Cakery chat.

Juliet is all too familiar with the love hate relationship many

sugar artists have with cocaine.

After starting a career in cake decorating 10 years ago while

starting a family,

she found herself alone,

frustrated and unhappy doing the things she loved most.

Juliette's love for sugar.

Art swelled after competing and winning three consecutive metals.

The toll of working from home alone and doing it all

herself, however,

was depleting the creative,

loving and social beam.

She truly is after meeting so many Cakery just like her.

She wanted everyone to know that they are not alone and

has committed to helping those in the sweet community believe in

themselves and their dreams.

Juliette's weekly Wednesday YouTube show and podcast kickers,

chat are filled with wisdom sprinkles to help sugar professionals with

everything from mindset marketing and the encouragement needed to compete and

stand out in the industry.

Juliet, welcome to the gift biz unwrapped podcast.

Thank you so much for having me.

I am so looking forward to our chat and although this

isn't cross Steen and Kay,

I have a question for you about candles and I know

you know it since you've listened to the show,

but I like to have you describe yourself through a motivational

candle. So if you were to share with us what color

it is and what the quote or motto would be on

your candle,

what would it look like?

So I absolutely love this idea.

So Mike handle,

I know everybody's probably thinking teal.

It has to be teal cause that's our branding.

But no,

it's actually more of a glowing orange,

pink and magenta and red center.

Of course it's filled with love.

So when you light this candle,

I want you to be filled with love and remember that

you are enough in front of that candle would say I

am enough because love has to start with love in yourself.

And of course being the complex being that I am on

the other side it would say all you do is do,

do, do and that's just a whole bunch of doodoo.

Seriously, that's a riot.

It really comes from the fact that we try to value

ourselves by doing so much and the minute that we have

some free time to ourselves will,

we don't feel like we're worthy and I don't want you

to feel that way.

That's a whole bunch of dude who let that premise go

live life with intention and know that everything you do either

is towards your goal or away from your goal and there

is a time for rest and that should be part of

your whole plan.

You know?

I think a lot of us are challenged with that and

I'm thinking as you're saying this,

it's probably part of just being an entrepreneur and wanting to

build something for yourself that like,

cause I know I don't think I can sit in a

chair and not multitask.

I'm not sure I know how to do it.

And I know it's important to your point that you should,

so I need to work with the doodoo.

Apparently It's real.

It really is important.

I think it's a way,

if you acknowledge it and know that it's there,

it does take hard work because if that's how you're wired

as I am and for many generations,

that's how we've been wired to just keep going.

The thing is what will happen is you'll burn out and

that thing that you love of most will be the thing

that you Tate.

Yeah. Wisdom.

Sure. What do you call them?

Wisdom of sprinkles.

Wisdom. Sprinkles.

But while we're on this point,

I don't think I can say this enough and we have

talked about it before,

but there's a difference between doing,

doing, doing and then doing tasks that can actually build your

business. And it's important.

There always has to be a little bit of both.

This is kind of a spin off of the whole working

in your business versus on your business theory.

But so often we think we're busy because we're doing so

much, but then we're not seeing more sales coming in or

the phone ringing more or whatever it is because we're so

busy working on something.

But it's not necessarily something that's leading us to a goal.

Absolutely. So we have to be careful with that.

We can't get stuck in the do-do.

How about that?

That's a great one.

I like that one too.

Don't get stuck in the do-do.

I have a five-year-old and a nine year old,

so like everything is potty talk in my house.

So yeah,

that's probably where it came from.

But yeah,

don't get stuck in that.

You don't have to be the one to do everything as

an entrepreneur where you think that because it's the beginning.

Sure. In the beginning you do have to have your hands

and fingers dipped and everything,

but as you get proficient in what it is that you

do, that excellence,

that thing that you can only do and nobody else can,

you need to start outsourcing some things and start looking at

things from a higher level so that you can move ahead.

Otherwise you're going to be stuck working in your business and

not on your business and your won't move ahead.

You want move ahead and you've limited your business then because

there's only so much one person can do And then it'll

just build up into resentment and then you're going to be

like, you know what?

I don't want to do this anymore.

Let's move on.

Yeah, I know firsthand well.

Yeah, and that's okay.

And you know,

maybe some of our listeners here,

it would be like,

gulp that to me.

Well guess what?

It's okay.

You learn and then you make adjustments.

And I often have to watch myself because it's so much

easier to gravitate to things that are easy and comfortable to

do versus the challenging things that often are the things that

are going to advance your business forward.

It's hard work to rest,

relax, and rejuvenate.

It is hard work,

especially if it's not part of your habits.

It's not part of your habit,

so if it's not part of your daily habit to rejuvenate,

relax, or even meditate,

it's just as important as water.

It's just as important sleep,

and yet even those things fall to the wayside because you're

so busy doing,

doing, doing,

doing. They can't do that.

The first thing you do,

wake up in the morning,

you grab your phone and you see how many likes you

have on something.

Oh my God,

that burns a hole in my heart.

Please don't do that to yourself and your mental state.

You need to get back into your own center and speak

to yourself.

Absolutely. All right,

well let's practice what we preach and not get stuck here.

Yeah, let's this,

we could talk the whole time on this,

right? Share with us how you got into cake decorating,

so the first portion of your sweet career,

if you will.

Absolutely. I was always some type of artist,

crafter type of personality and believe it or not,

I went to school for business communication and graphic design.

So as a graphic designer,

as far as baking those concerns,

that was just something we did at home and it was

just a Rite of passage in our family.

You were ready to be a wife to somebody,

if you will,

when you knew how to bake very well.

And in my teenage hood,

my cookies started to get more complex and one day my

mom handed over the mixer to me and said,

okay, now you're in charge of the holiday cookies from now

on in.

And that was like the biggest diploma I could ever get.

So you didn't feel like that was work,

like she was sending that over to you were happy about

it? It was like a status symbol in the family kind

of Status symbol.

My mom,

the perfectionist,

I mean she is Mary Poppins reincarnated and she literally gave

me the mixture and trusted me with it.

And as a matter of fact,

I believe she might've said something,

you'd do them better anyway.

Whoa, huge deal.

So I've always done cookies and cookie platters for the holidays,

Easter and Christmas.

Like that was my thing.

That was my therapy from school.

I loved it.

I loved the monotonous,

we used to say tedium is my medium.

The tediousness of trying to make each cookies the same.

It's therapeutic.

I loved it and I still do love it.

And then one day my inlaws moved into a new house.

I didn't know.

What do you give somebody that has everything?

I said,

you know what?

This guy buddy Valastro cake boss has been making cakes on

TV. I've been watching challenge on food network all the time.

Like that was my pastime,

I guess.

I said,

you know what?

They make it look so easy.

Let's see.

I've never made a cake before,

but here I go.

But this is how I do it.

First head first,

and I baked the cake.

It was,

okay, I'm kind of picky.

And then all of a sudden my hands manifested this cake

with a house made of rice Krispie treats and the tree.

And I'm like,

how did I do this?

I posted it on Facebook.

I mean if you look at it now,

it's really like what?

It's like a little kid do it,

but I couldn't believe that I did it,

but believe it or not,

from that little cake,

somebody called me and my second cake was a commissioned cake

right away that they asked me to make a cake for

an event and then it just went from there.

So you know what's cool about your story,

Juliette, is you felt it internally,

you felt that spark internally and then also you got confirmation

when someone saw it on Facebook.

So it's like two things coming together at once for a

perfect union.

It was.

It really was.

It was really incredible.

And I think I was really lucky with that.

And social media just started to get hot at that time.

I definitely owe it to social media for getting the word

out. Question for you.

So someone calls you and you saw that you were liking

what you were doing,

but now I'm sure you weren't expecting someone to call and

commission you for work.

No way Did you react to that and what did you

do about pricing?

Cause this isn't even on your radar.

Okay. So they called me and of course this was like

a family.

This is family who asked me to do it and I'm

going to be honest with you,

it was my second cake that I did.

I said,

pay me whatever you want.

That's okay.

That's how you start,

right? Yeah,

because I didn't know what they were family.

I'm like,

I've always baked and just gave it away anyway and this

is my second cake ever.

Are you kidding me?

Like I'm sure it took me a week to make the

cake like that.

Okay. Like that.

It's my second cake that's not going to work longterm for

sure. Right.

It's supposed to be a business thing.

It's just,

I know it took a lot of work to do and

I wasn't really expecting anything.

I was just grateful that somebody asked me to make them

a cake and they paid me and it was definitely proportionate

to what the work asked for.

I don't know about how pretty it was,

but it was done because it was a tall order.

This is my second cake and I made a round sphere

ball on a sheet cake and a soccer ball standing,

figuring. Now those people in the sugar world know that that's

not an easy thing to do.

But again,

I jump in head first.

Oh my gosh.

Hey, I'm still proud of it.

I stand by that cake still today.

So where along all of this was it that you said,

Oh, how about making this a business?

The calls started to come in so then there were more

calls. Yeah,

I guess it really just happened by happenstance.

I was going into graphic design.

I had my baby at the time and graphic design was

kind of being outsourced with a lot more cheaper overseas designs.

Brides weren't spending as much on invitations cause that was kind

of for my flow and those fancy invitations were going out

the door.

And people were going digital.

So I'm like,

Oh man,

like what am I going to do?

So my artistic layers,

if you will,

were no longer Photoshop.

They were layers of fun done and creating figurines and cakes

and things like that.

So I got another email from another person and they said,

Oh, I saw you did such and such as Kate,

do you mind doing mine?

So I did another kid's cake and then another kid's cake

and I couldn't believe figurines that were coming out of my

head. It was really an even till today,

to be honest.

It's kind of like an out of body experience.

You're surprised when you see what you've made.

I bet you too,

when you go back and look at some of your old

designs because you have distance from them now that you look

and it's like,

Whoa, that was pretty good.

Look at that,

the, I did that.

Yes. And the other side of the coin too,

I'm like Pat out.

I leave those round edges there and I was proud of

that. But now you're more critical too.

Of course.

Absolutely. But yeah,

no Things that I look at.

I'm like,

you had no training in this whatsoever.

And it's like literally manifesting out of your fingers.

It is an out of body experience.

It's like a trance.

You fall into a trance and you turn around.

I'm like,

who did that?

Oh my God,

that was me.

Oh that's so funny.

So your first jobs were people that you knew,

friends and family.

How long,

and this is a perfect demonstration of word of mouth,

right? Word of mouth.

Social media.

Yes. But one thing led to another and you weren't even

pushing for that.

This just started organically happening.

How long would you say it took from people who knew

you till you started getting phone calls from people that you

didn't know at all you had no connection with other than

through somebody else?

Like literally in months,

like not even months,

weeks. Really.

My third and fourth cake.

Well, cause it happened through social media and the people who

were ordering the cakes were still part of a tight community

here in New York.

So there were part of the Maltese community,

which I'm so lucky.

I'm married to a gorgeous multisite man,

so I guess because they hear my last name is Ghalia

that I must be Maltese,

but I'm married to one and they just stuck to the

community. So I think being into community,

being involved with the community,

letting people know that you are available there for them.

And then people started having babies for cakes.

Honestly, a lot of people say that the brides are the

moneymakers. I think the kids were the moneymakers for me because

at that time I was just kind of just training myself

with each cake that came in and I did everything in

my power to make sure they were excellent because to me,

my clients weren't clients.

There were family,

so it was really,

really important for me to make sure that I give them

the top notch business because I was not a shock.

To me,

a shock.

It's a different type of service.

It's just a different service Because you're very specialized and customized

and personal.

Yeah, and personal.

Yeah. Versus like a bakery where people are coming in.

It's equally as good.

It's just a different structure.

Absolutely different structure.

I was really basically a personal Baker.

There you go.

Okay. And the other thing that is interesting about your story,

the big term in this day is niching down,

become a specialist,

become known for something and so you were also a specialist

as you started to build.

I'm quite sure it didn't stay that way but within the

Maltese community,

absolutely. So that's another thought.

Just gift biz listeners based on your product.

If you have something within your groups or whatever to focus

on that as a way to build because the closer customers

can feel to you and feel like you get them quote

unquote the more you are going to be the chosen provider

of whatever it is that you sell.

Absolutely. I would totally reach out to like mommy groups within

a certain neighborhood if you are in that neighborhood,

sponsor their baseball teams or something like that.

And I really believe staying local with your community,

social media,

and I've said this a number of times,

social media is a great tool,

but don't be a fool.

Don't think that because you have followers and I don't know

where it's her nationally,

that those are not the people who are buying from you.

You really need to start your family,

create your community and really make it a community kitchen type

of thing.

If that depends again on who you're trying to service.

If you're servicing brides who are coming from overseas who are

coming for a destination wedding,

I get that,

but again,

pay attention to who you're servicing and make sure you create

a community around that.

Yes, and social media is a part of the whole,

really, It's just a marketing tool.

It's one marketing tool And so is this just a fabulous

quote that I just pulled out of you or have you

already said this or have you heard it elsewhere?

Social media is a great tool,

but don't be it's fool.

I've always said that Greg,

social media is a tool.

Don't be,

it's full.

Oh my gosh.

Well that's going to be a quote that you are going

to see on social media with your name under it.

Just letting you know right now.

I love it.

Yeah, because People depend on social media and they put their

full stock and they communicate with their clients on it.

It's not right that they don't own that content.

They really need to bring it back home,

bring it back home into their newsletters.

Make sure you have a database please of your clients.

Even if it's a simple Excel sheet.

If you don't know what an Excel sheet is,

I'm going to break it to in a word sheet.

I mean index cards,

anything, anything but keeping it all on your whatever,

Facebook or your Instagram,

I can go on forever.

That's a whole other class,

a whole other workshop.

I'm going to stick with your history,

but before we do,

you did bring up an important point and give biz listeners

at the time we're recording this.

This is about a week after Facebook went down for the

day. Do you guys remember that?

So when this goes live,

it'll be like a month ago or I'm not exactly sure

when. I swear everyone was up in arms.

What's happening?

How do I do business?

That's the demise of everything.

I mean,

everyone totally freaked out.

What you're talking about,

Juliet, in terms of making sure that you own connection back

to your customers is vital.

Absolutely. I mean,

it is the lifeblood of your business for sure.

So any of you guys who had heart stopping moments when

that happened,

that was a wake up call because that means you need

to get things in place.

Even your content,

especially if I know,

and this I think relates across the board with gifters as

well, but like sometimes we get so busy in our lives

and we post up these beautiful pictures of whatever products we're

selling, what have you.

Do you still have it somewhere on a hard drive elsewhere

other than your Instagram?

Yeah. Excellent point.

And how are you organizing that stuff?

Just remembered like that's just one of the spaces.

That's your pinup board,

but you got to have it in your filing cabinet.

Yeah. Excellent point.

So we're back to you and you've done a number of

cakes. Now what happens from there?

Okay, so I just continually keep on doing cakes and it's

fun. I'm growing in my skills and then I had a

second baby and thank goodness he was so good.

I got back into baking really quick right after that and

then I started competing and competing.

Really got my sportsmanship out and I said,

Ooh, this is fun.

Now, did you do that for yourself or to reposition yourself

with the in the industry or what was the purpose behind

it? I had no idea what I was doing.

I said,

Oh, this is fun.

Let me try it.

Oh my God,

I'm not good enough to compete.

I haven't been through this enough to compete,

but listen,

you did,

right? Yeah,

but these are the things that I said to myself and

I know so many people out there are saying to themselves,

and I competed and I placed gold on my first competition.

No way.

So like not,

I didn't think I was going to win.

I wasn't even there with my family.

It was of myself,

so when they called my name,

I was like,

huh, Oh my gosh,

that's so exciting.

I got home and my husband's like,

Oh, it's going to be okay.

He goes,

I want not only wine,

you want gold.

It was crazy.

Crazy. It really wasn't the amount of cakes and competition and

I got to learn that there's other people like me,

sugar nerds,

if you will,

and it just ignited a new thing in me and I

didn't know that there was another community out there just like

that and I could learn more and there were so many

more things I could learn And it was validating.

I mean,

you then saw that,

okay, what my style is recognized in the industry as being

good more than good winner status.

Yeah. You know,

that's a big deal too because a lot of times when

we're alone in our K caves or crafting caves,

if you will,

we are lost alone in our own thoughts and they may

or may not be true and I'm not going to say

that this gold medal said I was great at what I

did, but it just kind of gave me that little spirit

say, yeah,

I know what I should stick with this.

Hey, they stood up and took notice.

Yeah. What was a big deal for me?

Because the competitive nature that I am,

I will never be satisfied with that.

Yeah, I placed gold and this is something I need to

work with and appreciate that.

Yes, I did win something,

but to me the appreciation that I had that I had

professionals with a professional eye looking at my work,

taking the time out of their lives to look at my

work that I did in my tiny kitchen was amazing to

me. I was so grateful for that and they gave me

notes of what was good and how I can improve for

next time and that's what I took into the next competition.

Love it.

Okay, so you're competing.

You went on to win two other metals.

I know that from your intro.

Yup. After Juliette's gold metal status,

things started to change.

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for more information So I knew something had to change at

home. I live in New York,

so I started to get more orders.

My work started to get even better by recipes were unbelievable

delicious. I used to bake the same way I would bake

for my family,

not like a bakery.

It was all from scratch and the ingredients were all from

scratch. Even my font was from scratch.

This was unsustainable.

If you're going to have a business and actually make a

profit, Stay here for a second.

Explain that to some people who may not understand why that

is. This is a good point.

Absolutely. I always say this.

If I was going to keep on going with the business,

I would have to change a lot of things.

Again, I was servicing my customers the same way that I

serviced my family,

if not better.

Everything was homemade,

handmade, and it was done all from my hands from washing

dishes to getting the inventory.

Everything was done by me,

solopreneur, and it was just too much.

It took too much from my body.

It took too much time from my family.

He was taken up just too much space in my world.

Yes. And then you're also limited because since you can only

do so much,

it's like putting a lid on the jar of the revenue

that you could make.

Like there's X amount only.

Plus I'm sure if you really looked at the right costs

for your cakes,

they would be sky high.

Correct too.

Absolutely correct.

So for example,

the amount of profit that I should have been making off

these cakes were not something that somebody would pay for.

So in order for me to actually create a business out

of it,

you'd have to systemize things and maybe not make the fondant

by hand,

maybe don't use those kinds of ingredients.

Maybe cake is the way to go because some clientele don't

have that taste.

It's kids not pastry.

And I come from a cookie pastry heart.

That's where my basis is.

So I carry that into my caking because when you have

cake, it's a slice of cake and usually have it with

food versus when you're having just cookies,

you're just taking that one bite and you're almost criticizing.

I represented in that one bite.

So I make sure that I pack as much love into

it, if you will,

to make that everlasting tastes or everlasting Mark with you.

I carried that on with my cakes and it was just

too much.

Yeah. In other words,

the product was too expensive and it wasn't as profitable as

it should have been.

In order for me to do that,

I would have to systemize things.

I hate to say drop my standards,

but it would just be a different product.

Well yeah.

And I'm also thinking that you were attracting a different audience

than what your standard was.

Cause it sounds to me,

correct me if I'm wrong,

but it sounds to me if you would have continued,

you would have needed to be doing upscale cakes to celebrities

who could pay for it or upscale restaurants that had to

have specialty cakes and all that because they'll pay thousands and

thousands of dollars for those cakes because of the taste.

But it sounds like the type of clientele,

yes, of course it has to taste wonderful.

But they were a lot into your designing talent.

Correct. So it was,

I hate to say it that way,

but maybe it was about the taste of the cake,

but it was also about,

and maybe more about what it looked like in the impression,

the visual impression.

Yeah, no apology needed.

You're absolutely right.

But the thing is that I couldn't let a product out

of my kitchen or go through my hands.

That wasn't perfect.

Cause of course that's my perfectionist in me.

So if that product wasn't a hundred percent through with,

through, I felt like I couldn't put my name on it.

So it helped me back that perfectionism.

And that's why I say perfectionism is just perfection is perception.

So for that,

those months out of my life,

those years out of my life,

I was holding myself back because I literally could have been

making way more money,

but I did it because I needed to have that product

be a hundred percent through wind,

through not even a hundred percent 110% you know,

whatever it is,

I put so much more effort into it.

Yeah. So give business listeners,

I want to relate this to everybody.

So give biz listeners,

this could be for you,

making sure that this hand blown glass bead is absolutely positively

every single one of them is absolutely perfect or cookie designs,

same thing and you should try and stay out of the

industry, but gift baskets that the bow that you're putting on,

if it isn't absolutely perfect,

where every single loop is exactly right,

you scrap that bow and start over with a whole nother

bow like those are things that cost you money that the

client never sees.

Now obviously it can't be lopsided like a bow couldn't be

lopsided or a glass bead can't be imperfect,

but when we go to that styling level That is just

taking so much time with perfectionism,

it's a good place to self-check because you're losing money in

that moment.

When you go back and redo and redo and redo.

Do, do,

do, do.

Time is money.

And let's say for example,

let's go to those bows.

Let's say,

and this is just an example,

I'm not a bowmaker,

so I don't know what the lingo is here,

but let's say for example,

the most perfect bow in the world has eight loops in

it, or nine loops in it,

and your client couldn't tell if it had five or eight.

To be honest,

he's happy with two,

whatever he's happy with,

go for it.

If he's happy with the to go with the tube,

I know you love the nine Bo nine loop bow.

I know that you love that for your satisfaction,

but maybe you can tear your stuff and say,

Oh, two Lupo is a silver package and a nine loop

bull is like a gold package and do it that way.

That way you can still do the bows that you love

but get paid according to it.

Good point.

Okay, so the suspense is rising.

You're at a crossroads,

and so now you've identified this challenge.

So what were your options and what did you decide to

do about it?

I live in New York city.

So in New York city we don't have a food cottage

law. So I was going to continue with my baking.

I would have to open up a studio,

which is something I've always dreamt of.

Or actually that's the only thing I was thinking is like

having a studio.

So I'm like,

should I open up a studio?

Meaning like a commercial kitchen or a bakery or what?

It would be a commercial kitchen that you would have to

come and see me by appointment because I'm an artist first

and foremost.

So it wouldn't be something that I would be doing retail

on a daily basis.

Gotcha. And I have my kids to raise as well.

So that would have worked with that.

So I was shopping around for that thinking how much time

would I need to commit to that because it's another family

member, it's another part of your life.

So I was in that crossroads.

I was still getting pricing and thinking what I should do.

And once that summer's Eve,

I guess if you will,

we were having a barbecue or a gathering with a whole

bunch of bakers where we were talking about the baking industry

and we were giving each other advice and I was asking

people questions as I the curious caker I am,

I'm asking people questions and they're like,

Oh that's a great question.

Everybody's listening in to the questions and stuff like that.

And I said,

you know what?

This is such great information.

You guys are so full of great information.

This should be put out there and shared with everybody,

cause I'm sure everybody else has questions just like this.

And my friends were like,

Oh well then you should put it out there.

And funny enough,

I don't know how it happened,

but we laughed it off.

We left it alone a couple of weeks later.

Next thing I know,

I'm out there helping out another friend who started putting the

information there and that's chef Amy,

Laura. And we went on Periscope at the time we went

on Periscope and next thing you know,

we had a whole bunch of followers asking us people that

we know,

asking her questions.

We were talking about networking and it was such a great

chat. Was it perfect?

No, our papers were flying all over the place and information

was awesome because she kind of brought it home of why

it's so important to network and what it can do,

not only for yourself but for your business.

Right. We call it a Cakery chat from the get go.

It was just something that happened spontaneously,

so just as spontaneously as I was throwing in into the

role of being a cake decorator or sugar artist.

Here I am being a host of a talk show And

once again,

did you have that inner feeling like dang,

light goes on.

This is what I want to do.

Well, I love talking to people.

I love getting information from people extracting.

I've always been good at that.

But when my confirmation,

when I said,

when that ding moment,

if you will,

when it said I should keep on going with this is

when I saw all the followers,

I know the questions and all the emails that Juliet,

can you find out how to do this and how to

do that.

And when I saw that other people needed this community and

that we're all alone in our cake cave and this is

what I need to drive home and this is so important

to me,

is that we need to create a community where we love

each other or as I like to say,

so we can all rise together in the oven like cupcakes.

We can absolutely rise together.

We don't need to knock each other down.

We do not need to blow out somebody else's candle,

if you will.

All our Kendall's could light and light up the whole universe

together. Absolutely.

And I think specially because so many people are solo entrepreneurs

for sure.

As they get started,

you do feel alone and am I doing this right or

am I enough to your candle?

And to have other people say,

Hey, I felt the same way.

I'm going through the same thing.

Keep going,

here's what you do.

Or here's what worked for me.

Just having that comradery and we talk about the fact that

social media isn't something you should lean on.

Totally. Well,

social media,

like Facebook groups,

groups like this are golden.

Absolutely. Give his listeners,

if you haven't already found some groups that are in your

industry specific,

I definitely would do so.

And I have to put the plug in here for our

group gift biz breeze,

which is for all gifters bakers,

crafters and makers because I think there is a quality to

cross breeding,

crafting and making as well.

Absolutely. So a maker community like mine,

but also a community that's industry specific and those two together

are perfect.

What do you call it?

What? You have a saying?

You have all these sweet salesman,

but what's your buttercream?

Oh, spread love.

Like buttercream.

Of course.

There you go.

Of course.

But of course.

So are you not baking anymore?

Okay. So I would love to bake,

but I do it on the holidays and I do it

only for family.

No. So I get those requests like,

Oh Julie,

cause my family name is Julie.

They don't call me Juliette.

Julie, do you think he can make me those peaches?

And of course with my family it's never just a dozen

peach cookies.

It's like a tray.

I'm like,

sure, sure.

Well and you kind of have to,

since your mom passed the torch to you Basically.

And it would drive me crazy if she did it because

none of them are even,

Oh my gosh,

my OCD goes in there.

Minor bite-size anyways.

Yeah. So mine are a little bit better,

but yes.

But you know,

I think it's really good that you still have hands on

in the craft because then you can continue to relate to

the audience apps.

Cause if you weren't doing something,

if you just went into,

and I want to talk about what else you're doing with

kickers, chat,

but if you weren't still somewhat hands on now you're not

monetizing that hands on part,

I get it.

But you're much more relatable.

They feel like you understand them too.

Oh absolutely.

Well, I'm not the chef master Baker.

I'm actually not even trained in my craft.

I'm trained by the school of hard knocks if you will,

but I'm still in the game and I'm not saying that

I have everything figured out,

but I'm here to support you in what you do.

See, I've been supporting a lot of people in different industries

in my career while I've been doing,

while I've been went to school,

I was supporting so many different industries and other solo preneurs

and I watched them work so I know what works and

I know what doesn't work.

Yes. In the beginning when you have your dream,

you are working by yourself.

You need to start thinking about having a team outsourcing certain

things and when you don't have a support system or you

have a support system but they don't know exactly how to

support you,

sometimes it's important for you to either a get a mentor

or hire one and I know money is short,

but wouldn't you rather not sit there and reinvent the wheel

when somebody has already gone through it and is willing to

mentor you through certain things?

How much more can you accomplish if somebody said,

you know what,

why don't you do F steps a,

B, and C cause you're so busy looking at the pixels

of a picture versus the bigger picture.

Again, it goes back to working on your business versus working

in your business.

Absolutely, and I would dare to say that you end up

spending more money that way.

It's just little chunks of money over time versus investing in

someone who can really help you move the ball forward in

a big way.

Move the ball forward with somebody or you are going to

end up getting hurt while trying to move this ball.

That's not going to move anywhere.

Right. And then there's the uncertainty,

am I actually even doing what I should be doing?

Is this the right method?

All of that.

Just having someone who has had the experience.

I totally agree with you Juliet.

100% yeah.

Okay. Tell us more about Cakery chat and anything else you'd

like to add to what you're doing today.

Absolutely. Well kickers chat is a online community and right now

it's on YouTube.

So there's a weekly YouTube show and it's a podcast so

you can listen in if in case you're baking or doing

crafts. So in case you can't watch.

And we help bakers a sweet treat makers build their confidence

through self-awareness.

And as a result they become more confident to be seen

and to be able to profit from their passion and help

spread love like buttercream within the tribe.

And it all relates as far as their business.

So the more they grow and help others grow,

they too in their own business can grow and apply certain

ideas or thoughts or mindsets,

which is a big deal cause a lot of people who

become makers or crafters or bakers a lot of times fall

into it by accident just like I did.

Absolutely. I agree with you.

I see them every day.

And so both on YouTube and your podcast is Cakery chat.

So that's where the people will find you.

Absolutely. Okay.

And then also of course gift biz listeners on the show

notes page,

I'll have links to Facebook,

Instagram, all those good sites for you to know about.

So Juliette,

I understand you have some gifts for my audience today.

Absolutely. If you're a cake or Baker or a sweet treat

maker or any kind of maker creative today for you,

I have Cakery chat that isn't because I love you there.

I are non for your chef coat and also we can

do a discovery session just for you where we can talk

about the things that you need and maybe line up where

you need to go with your business.

Cool. So a discovery session,

is that a phone call or how does that work?

Absolutely. Can get onto a Skype call or a FaceTime call

and kind of discuss where you're at with your goals and

where you want to go and maybe I can help you

realign that with the tasks you need to do to get

there. Oh my gosh,

that's so generous,

Juliet. I really appreciate it.

So there are patches for your chef code and there's the

opportunity for the call.

So how do people get in contact with you for those?

Well, you head over to kickers,

chat.com sign up for our newsletter and the first two people

to sign up for our newsletters will be eligible to get

those chef coat badges and Oh,

discovery session call.

So two people will be winners.

So act fast,

can't wait to chat with you.

Well Juliet,

I don't have a cake here to give you,

but they do have a gift for you.

It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.

So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable

Heights that you would wish to obtain.

Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.

What's inside your box?

Oh, Sue,

thank You so much.

This is something I've dreamt about for a very long time.

It's a unified front of humans looking to fulfill their dreams.

They're filled with love and confidence and a growth mindset and

they have tolerance and compassion for one another and we as

a unified front,

get to make everything grow and fill the universe with more

love. Okay.

Can I be the first one at that door to get

in? That sounds perfect.

Can I come share your gift with you?

Literally it's for everybody.

Love it.

Only with more love in this world.

Can we create more things without anything else holding us back?

Couldn't agree with you more.

Thank you so much,

Juliet. Your story is so interesting.

I know a lot of it is you say,

well, I didn't mean to do this,

but this happened and I didn't like everything just naturally progressed

for you and of course,

yes. In the instance of Quakers chat,

it was a definite decision because you were at a fork

in the road.

It's going to be one way or it's going to be

the other.

And I kind of feel like the universe decided it for

you. It's not,

you're right.

Again, I didn't mean to be a leader in the industry.

I was chosen by my tribe,

But you were open to the idea you accepted and saw

the information and then took action and move forward.

And I think a lot of people either don't have their

eyes wide open to it or they say,

no, no,

no, it couldn't be me.

That has to go back to self awareness.

It's really important self-awareness and listen.

So I want to thank you for being a leader of

your community,

the yummy butter cream and everything sweet community.

So I love that and I thank you so much for

sharing everything that you have with us today.

Thank you,

sir. Thank you so much and I love your program and

please continue to spread love like buttercream.

See what I mean?

Juliet is a riot when she expresses herself and aligned her

comments right to her industry and it just naturally rolls off

her tongue along with such great advice.

I do want to reinforce what she talked about when she

was discussing what prevented her from growing her business for a

while. I know that this is a place where a lot

of people get stuck.

As a one woman show,

you can only do so much.

So I want you to think about whether your at that

fork in the road like Julia was,

and if so,

what steps do you need to take to adjust so you're

still advancing towards your goals?

Maybe one of the things to consider is what we're talking

about next week,

which is scaling your business online.

I look forward to us all being together then and this

week. Let's take Juliette's advice.

Let's spread love like buttercream.