061 – Luxe Bloom Roses Last 60 Days Without Water! with Shelly Rosen

Gift biz unwrapped episode 61,

You cannot give up.

You can never give up because it's your dream.

And you're the one that's going to have to make it

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This is John Lee,

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Sue Monheit hi there and welcome to the gift Unwrapped podcast.

Whether you own a brick and mortar shop sell online or

are just getting started,

you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your

business. And today I am thrilled to have joining us.

Shelly Rosen.

Shelly is the founder and CEO of Luxe bloom,

which is a venture backed Chicago based startup Lux.

Bloom delivers transformative innovation by offering natural long lasting Rose arrangements

to luxury business operators on a subscription basis.

Luxe bloom roses do not require water or refrigeration to keep

their subtle beauty.

And they last 60 days,

Shelly was an executive director at McDonald's corporation for over 12

years there.

She directed global strategic planning efforts in the areas of innovation,

global brand strategy and issues management.

Thanks for joining us,

Shelley and welcome to the show.

Thank you so great to be here.

Is there anything else you think we should add to your

intro? Well,

I guess we could just tell everybody out there that it's

never too late to be a late blooming entrepreneur.

So my introduction that you gave was the first part of

my life.

Now this is the second part,

the plan B part,

There you go.

I am so excited to get into this whole story and

I want everybody who is not listening on audio,

but anywhere near your computer or when you get to your

computer later,

you have to look at the product that Shelly has.

These roses are on believable,

and you're going to hear the whole story right now as

we get started.

But absolutely definitely when you can,

you've got to see this product.

It is,

you can't really explain it until you see it.

That's what I have to say about that.

You're right.

Sue. You're absolutely right.

Seeing is believing.

Exactly. So I want to start,

and as our listeners know,

we like to get a little bit of an indirect feel

from you by talking about a motivational candle.

If you were to create your very own candle,

what color would it be and what would be the quote

on that candle?

Well, I know for sure my favorite color is red because

it's a color of passion and insight and it does so

happen to be the top selling Rose color in the world

by far Because it's the color of love,

right? Red is the color of love.

It is a romance color for sure.

The top selling Rose color worldwide by 70% of all Rosales

is rep.

So that's kind of a fun little fact.

And I think the word passion is sort of the link

to the quote and sort of the idea.

And I actually had this hanging on my bedroom door in

high school,

and I've never really found a quote that beats this quote.

And it says winners never quit and quitters never win.

And the idea behind this quote is you got to get

in the game and you got to go the distance and

have the stamina because in the end,

if you place enough bets,

you're bound to be a winner.

So this guides me in my personal and professional life and

with my friends and all sorts of things,

because especially being an entrepreneur,

you cannot give up,

you can never give up because it's your dream and you're

the one that's going to have to make it a reality,

Right? And when you hit obstacles,

you just figure out a way around them,

over them,

under them,

through them,

whatever you need to do Through that wall.

Sue. Absolutely.

We were talking before in our pre-chat,

if we were going to share with the audience that we

know each other,

and I've just decided since you brought up where this quote

came from Shelly and I have known each other since high

school and lost touch,

we really haven't talked for a while except at reunions,

et cetera.

And we were actually pretty close,

you know,

on and off during high school,

actually. Right.

And so now we have reestablished our connection and I don't

remember that quote,

hanging on your door,

Shelly. But what I remember about your bedroom is you're super

cool up to date furniture.

Do you guys remember that modular kind of geometric shaped furniture?

Shelly had the latest and the greatest and my bedroom was

the old traditional stuff.

And I was always so jealous.

I just had to throw that in there.

So now getting back on topic,

I don't know the whole story about the roses.

I kind of know from an outside perspective.

So I'm going to hear this along with you guys,

but I will tell you she is one rock star,

not only when she was with McDonald's,

but in providing this product.

So we are going to carry on here.

So let's talk Shelly.

Now about Luxe bloom.

How in the world did you get this idea of creating

a Rose like this?

Where did that come from?

No, actually I'm going to be real honest.

I did not invent the idea of preserving the Rose.

invented preserving with the technique of involving using sugar water and

many, many years ago,

actually in Japan,

a man took the idea of involving which is glycerin water

and began to apply it to flowers.

So in a market like Japan,

the idea of preserving flowers is very much part of the

culture where I got the idea for the actual business,

because it's virtually unknown in the U S is that was

doing some consulting for a company that has what's called a

subscription-based business model,

which for those of you out there,

basically what that means is you pay someone something every month

to get that product,

Netflix, your garbage removal.

Anyway, it's a monthly fee.

I was noticing that the luxury industry was going through a

big dramatic downside,

no more chocolates on the pillow.

The floral industry is shrinking at this time,

florists are closing,

but yet luxury brands still need to put that last detail

to the finish.

It's a really long story.

How I saw the product and London and worked really hard

to try to find well,

where do I get it?

Because it was not available in America.

And I found through some actual connections through McDonald's Ecuador,

a farm in Ecuador who made this product.

And we began a relationship.

It's the only woman owned farm in the entire country of

700 Rose farmers.

And she was working on this technology.

I smashed together the subscription-based business model,

which is a winning business model with the idea of providing

luxury businesses,

Rose arrangements on a recurring basis.

And finally,

what I want to say about it is in the early

stage of a company,

when you have an idea,

you need to get the proof of concept.

You have to vet the idea to see if your promise

is there.

But I urge all of you out there to make sure

that you have a sound business model because you might be

able to execute it.

But if the financials don't make sense,

it's not a good venture.

So by combining that with my background at McDonald's and learning

about predictability and consistency and creating quality experiences,

we've smashed all that together to deliver recurring Rose arrangements,

to leading luxury businesses without compromising the beauty that a luxury

business demands.

Wow. That's a lot of experience and knowledge in a few

minutes here.

Okay. I want to back it up.

And I,

again, we see this all the time,

give biz listeners,

it's watching your environment around you identifying an area where there's

a hole,

there's a need something's missing.

You know,

during the time that Shelly's talking about people were cutting back

on budget,

why would you think even luxury facilities are going to start

buying something bigger,

better, more beautiful,

but Shelly found the way and the system and the foothold

in, if you will.

The other thing now,

Shelly, I want you to share with everybody so they understand

how businesses have to start.

Where were you conducting your business when you were first starting?

Well, I was starting in the basement.

There you go.

Exactly what I wanted you to tell that I literally took

the basement and created a little office and a Rose room

area. And my first employee was a floral designer.

We took one of the back bedrooms and turned it into

her working studio,

where the roses were stored and the basis and a little

production area.

And we would cart the Rose arrangements in and out of

the house until the ups and FedEx guys were starting to

come every day for pickups.

And we basically made it a working office and people would

come visit us and we'd have fun lunches cause I had

the kitchen,

but we made do until we ended up winning the Hugo

At that time,

we would have had to order five to 6,000

rows heads and make 400 rows arrangements to ship to 50

Hugo boss stores from Hawaii to Boston.

And I was saying to myself,

okay, I could move all the furniture out of my living

room and like move everything out of my house because I'd

have to do that in order to have made this order.

So we decided to start looking for space and luckily found

a warehouse that had been unoccupied from a former place.

And we moved in to the warehouse September,

2013, the roses import arrived in October and we made our

first huge,

huge shipment just in time from the basement to,

to get us a particular order out with big pallets and

lots of shipping and lots of people helping pull this together.

Wow. Were you freaking out when you said yes and agreed

to do this job?

Well, I think this is part of the,

a little bit of the advice.

One of the fun stories is my first account was the

Waldorf Astoria in New York city,

which is one of the most prestigious hotels in America.

It's the entire city block of fifth Avenue and 50th presidents

at diplomat stay there.

And I ended up calling on them.

The particular client was showing me the various floral arrangements and

they kept saying,

well, can you make this,

can you make this?

And I kept saying yes to her,

but on the inside,

I was like,

I have no idea how I would do it.

So I do think there's a little bit of faking it

till you make it and having the belief in yourself that

you're going to figure it out.

Whether that means engaging someone else asking for advice or being

honest with the client and saying,

okay, I can't make exactly this,

but here's what I can do.

And so in the Hugo boss situation,

once we had already said,

we were at the Waldorf and at the Carlyle in New

York, they're like,

Oh, okay,

well then this is a valid term.

But in that case,

I had never shipped that many Rose arrangements with such high

pressure because they were on display for the holidays and our

very fancy boutique.

So faking it till you make it.

And then having the confidence to ask yourself what questions don't

I have answered so that I can pull in the right

resources to get the job done.

And I think that's the point.

I mean,

there's two things here.

Number one is you,

when you're presented with these opportunities,

even though you're so anxious,

grab them because you don't know if they're going to come

again and then figure out and be resourceful and call in

experts who know whatever you need to do to get the

job done then,

but don't pass anything up just because you're a little anxious

or you don't have the total plan yet big point because

a lot of people,

you know,

especially entrepreneurs who are just starting,

there's always the,

okay, well,

but, or maybe I'll do this,

but I mean,

how many people do you hear who think they're going to

start a business and then they're talking about it forever,

or they're going to write that book.

Look what Shelley did.

I mean,

she had some high power.

I mean,

had you not performed challis,

those are big time names that your reputation you would have

been in trouble.

So it was either going to go really,

really well or really not.

Well for you,

you grabbed on said you were going to do it and

look at where you are now.

Great insight.

Alright. You and I have both been in the marketing advertising

world. Share with everybody a little bit about what you're talking

about when you say proof of concept.

Okay? So in the early stages of a business,

you have some idea on a piece of paper,

or you may have written a business plan,

but you got to prove it,

execute it.

You've gotta be able to make money on it.

You have to deliver on a promise that you're making to

your potential customer.

So in my case,

the proof of concept was one,

does anyone even want to buy this?

Cause they don't even know about it.

No one's ever heard of preserved roses.

Two, can I successfully import it from a foreign country having

never done that?

Sorry, can I make a Rose arrangement?

That is something someone would buy because it doesn't work like

real flowers.

We glue it in and we use wire.

It's all constructed.

And three,

most importantly,

can I ship it from my office to the front lobby

of the St Regis hotel without any incidents.

And this is critical because every single detail matters when you're

serving a luxury business and you can't just promise quality,

you have to exceed and out,

execute on a quality.

So we did drop test shipping with federal express.

The FedEx guys were sitting in my kitchen table,

like, who is this person?

And why are we here?

This must not be a real business.

I said,

please trust me.

And please work with me because I want to work with

leading suppliers.

And they did.

And so they dropped tests,

shifted from Memphis and do the shake,

the gorilla and do everything that they do to a package

to make sure that it works.

And I would say 98% of the time we get it

to the front door without any issues back to the question

is I decided what proof of concept would be for actually

the concept.

The final aspect of proof of concept is,

is it a viable business?

So yeah,

I made the rosary arrangement.

I know what my margins are on the product,

but is there a,

there, there is what you're trying to invent marketable.

And does someone want to pay what you would like to

sell the product for?

This is key because a lot of people have ideas and

they can't execute them,

or a lot of people can execute,

but they don't make money on it.

It's the combination and the gestalt of everything to get to

proof of concept.

So we definitely have proof of concept with credit worthy customers

and super luxurious brands that say yes to Luxe bloom.

So did you go and present the idea to people first

just to see,

or how did you get to the point,

not the product portion,

but that people would actually purchase it.

What type of steps did you take to make sure and

to ensure proof of concept for Luxe bloom?

First, I had to get my import brokers license to conduct

my first import from a foreign country.

You have to get cleared through Homeland security and a lot

of events to be a broker.

A lot of people may say,

Oh yeah,

get your license.

You can,

it just takes a little bit of time.

And then working out the details with cargo and logistics.

So we got our first import and I decided to make

so samples at my cross fly to New York and attended

meeting called the luxury marketing meeting,

which isn't really a marketing group.

It's just a group of luxury brands in New York.

And I had asked the man that runs the group,

if I could give some samples of my product to some

people to try.

And so I made some samples with a little brochure and

I had given it to people like 20 people.

And one of them was the person at the Waldorf Astoria.

And essentially she took it.

And the next day I was still in New York.

And I see on my cell phone,

the number of the Waldorf,

the story it comes up and she explains who she is.

And she says,

I have to say,

I just took your Rose apart.

I got a sample at this party last night,

I took it apart,

is this real?

And I said,

it is.

And she said,

well, where's the water?

And I explained the process.

And she said,

well, do you mind coming over?

Because our floral budget is literally crushing my operating P and

L, but we have to have flowers.

So I came over and this is where the fake it

till you make it comes through.

She took me on a tour and kept asking me,

can you make this,

can you make this,

can you make this?

And I said,

well, I know I can make these things.

I can try to make these things.

And she said,

well, I'll give you a chance.

And if it works and you do save me money,

I will convert the buy from the super fancy florist in

New York city to you.

We did it.

I literally was on the floor in the tanning salon,

gluing the roses into the base.

Cause I didn't know how to ship it yet.

And we did the installation and it's three years and we've

never looked back.

She was my first client.

She believed in me.

I knew that I would do whatever it took to execute

this to the last detail,

including if something happened,

I would fly back and fix it,

which a local Flores could have just come over.

And according to her,

we are saving 56% of her operating costs on floral without

compromising beauty in one of the most luxurious hotels in the

country. Wow.

And I wouldn't even say without compromising beauty,

I would say enhanced beauty because the,

and the style of the roses,

they all look perfect and the colors pop.

So I get shivers when I listened to that story,

challis, that is Awesome.

So proof of concept,

you guys,

this was a perfect demonstration.

When you listen to what Shelly was saying,

she has the end result she has to get to,

and then she backed it up step by step.

She identified what she needed to do.

She listed the different steps she had to take.

Then she was testing.

Then she revised to make sure that the product was right.

So that was all on product production side.

Then she had to make sure there was a market for

it. And what did she do?

She got herself in front of people,

provided product,

gave them the experience and you landed a big one right

from the start.

And you haven't looked back.

That's right.

Give us another time.

This all sounds beautiful.

The story's great.

You have presented us with some challenges.

Is there another roadblock,

a really big barrier that came right in front of you

that you just weren't sure you were going to be able

to overcome.

There's two big barriers to the growth of my company.

One is securing capital and the other is human capital and

great talent and labor that can do what we do and

has our work ethic and standards and quality.

So the first with regard to capital naively,

I thought that I would be able to drive enough sales

myself, to operate the company.

But as you know,

when you move out of your basement,

now you pay rent insurance,

all sorts of extra costs.

You have a monthly burn rate while we've kept the burn

rate, low of the operating costs of the company.

We still need to capitalize the company by hiring more great

people. And I have to say many have tried,

and nobody has really been able to sell the Luxe bloom

promise, which is a barrier to my growth.

So those two things could impede me getting to be a

really big company.

We compete for capital all the time.

We are in what we call the shark tank pitches in

Chicago. We're big in the venture community.

These pitches work like shark tank.

You go in,

you get 10 minutes to talk about your value proposition,

your finances,

there's investors in the room at the end,

they say yes or no,

and we've done hundreds of them,

but we're competing in Chicago for capital in technology.

And right now technology and healthcare investors are more interested in

those kinds of businesses that what I'd call a product-based cost

of goods business.

But yet,

I mean,

continue to try in terms of hiring people.

I have to say,

we use many sources on the internet.

I was just on the phone with a recruiter.

I think in the early years of my life,

you had a job and you had to do that job.

And if you stepped in someone else's sandbox,

you'd be in trouble in the entrepreneur world.

Many of you know,

you have to do many jobs,

sort of hub and spoke.

So we look for people that have one outstanding skill,

but have the ability to possibly do other things.

Because an entrepreneur business cannot afford to hire one to do

each job.

This is one the barrier girls,

but we continue to believe that if we become a brand

to watch that people will want to join our company and

want to be part of something that is really innovative and

solving some problems.

Wonderful. I love the point where you're talking about in terms

of hiring,

you're hiring for one really huge strength,

but then the ability to take on other tasks as well.

That's great insight,

something for all of us to think about and remember for

our businesses moving on.

I know you've recently been on QVC,

what types of things,

and maybe it is that,

but what types of things do you find move the needle

the most for you?

There's two aspects of our business,

B2B business to business and B to C business to the

consumer. We've held off on the consumer aspect because consumers,

when it comes to flowers,

have very specific requests and a consumer is buying one flower

arrangement and a business is buying cases and cases and cases

of flowers.

So our focus has been on businesses,

but we are in pilots for the consumer in terms of

things that have made a difference for us in terms of

sales, we had been pitching Saks fifth Avenue of New York

city because they have beautiful window displays.

And we always thought,

well, maybe we could just sell them Rose heads.

And they could do something on their own after months and

months and months of pitching.

I mean,

months, the sex with Avenue team wrote us a letter in

I'm sorry.

We really like your product,

but we're going in another direction.

But keep in touch with us.

Christmas comes and goes.

And whatever idea they wanted to do was not able to

be executed.

So at the last minute they called us back a month

later and said,

we'd like to award you the entire Saks fifth Avenue assignment.

It's a hundred thousand roses in 33 windows on fifth Avenue,

49th and 50th.

And after I fell off my chair,

what, what month was that?

That was January,

2015. And the windows had to be up the last week

of April.

Now, remember I have a product from God,

God grows the roses.

This is not made in a factory in China.

So my first call was to the farmer and I explained

the situation and really worked hard on a partnership to say,

we must supply this assignment and not only supply it,

but Sachs asked us to make it.

So we worked with Chanel,

Dior, Tom Ford,

all the leading brands on their designs.

And we literally glued in all the windows,

have sex with Ave.

And we did it in 11 days,

tirelessly from 5:00 AM to midnight gluing in the roses and

making the designs.

If you go to Luxe balloon.com

under the gallery section,

you'll be able to see what we did in this show,

stopping window,

after window display.

And this particular promotion got attention from NBC today's show,

which is across the street from Sachs.

Many people had called going,

Oh my God,

how did you make a wedding dress out of roses?

You have to see it to believe it.

So it changed us from being,

yes, we can do it to being on the stage of

flawless execution for one of the most leading luxurious brands in

the country.

And that made a real difference from our B2B business.

Finally, at QVC,

the QVC scout was watching the today show and sauce and

thought, Oh my God,

these roses are so colorful.

The lady at home is going to want to have these

colors. QVC,

viewers love things that have colors products with colors and after

much vetting and many meetings,

this world-class company called QVC.

We had gone to see if we could even do it.

I didn't know how to do it,

fake it till you make it and went down there.

And it's a very long story.

It's a story in and of itself,

but we were on air April 5th and I'm back on

air this week,

May 17th with a special collection,

we call the teacup collection designed exclusively for the lady at

QVC. So we now have two really big case.

History is B2B and B to C and a lot of

learning ahead of us to decide what is the right direction

to go forward.

And possibly both impossibly both with enough capital to hire the

right people,

to do it Right.

Well, I encourage all of you.

You've got to go online and see those pictures.

I remember when that was happening,

Shelly, because everyone in high school was like,

Oh my gosh,

you see these windows,

you know,

our whole high school,

Facebook page is like Charlotte.

Yeah, you've got to see it.

You guys,

you just,

you don't understand it until you actually see it.

I was saying that at the top of the show,

all right,

Shelly, we're going to move now into our reflection section.

This is a look at you.

And what has made you successful along the way over and

above even everything that you've already talked to us about,

what natural trait do you have that you continually call upon

so that you are successful Is one thing.

And it's kind of related to the quote,

but it is what I call belligerent.

Perseverance being perseverant is one thing,

but being belligerent,

not to others,

but about yourself.

And your goal is sort of the only way that you

can make things happen.

It's a very competitive world.

And right now the economy,

you know,

the workforce has changed.

The internet has changed things in an order to achieve your

dream. You have to pursue with a rigor and a belligerence

that can get you to that end zone that can get

you through break you through the clutter.

And I liken that to combining belligerent perseverance with making sure

that you're delivering quality experiences for the price.

The customer pays going over the top and delivering that with

attention to what if you were the customer I'm right now

in the middle of emailing a customer and we just want

a cruise ship and they're trying to find the order because

the ship is sailing.

So I'm looking at my screen thinking,

Oh my God,

the FedEx guy got there on time and the boat's leaving

and they can't find the package.

I have to make sure that I am obsessed with the

last mile every day on every detail.

So that carries into my business.

Got it.

Well, good luck with that.

But that's what has made you successful,

first of all,

in the development of the product,

like we were talking about your listing,

everything that needs to be done every step along the way,

I'm quite sure you have all of those processes and systems

throughout your whole organization,

just to make sure that everything is checked off and done

to the utmost gold standard level.

That's possible along those lines,

what type of tool,

if there was one thing that you use regularly,

almost every single day that you would share as your most

valuable tool in business,

what would it be?

I'm so glad you asked this because I just was talking

to someone about it.

I use a piece of paper,

literally with lines on it and a pencil.

And every night before I leave the office or go to,

I make the to-do list for the next day.

And the master to do was I tried to everything.

I tried final faxes notes and outlook computer programs.

It doesn't work.

I literally focus on a and B priorities.

I always eat the broccoli on the plate.

First. I do the worst thing that I have to do.

First. I get to work very early.

I don't wait till seven o'clock to start working on the

finances assistance.

That's not a good idea.

So eat the broccoli on the plate first.

And I obsess about the to-do list.

Not because I like to cross things off,

but I can't be belligerently perseverance to move these rocks every

day, unless I'm moving the business.

So it's simple,

it's fear free.

You can get a pad of paper at office Depot.

And I stick to the list because I know every day

I'm going to be interrupted for sure in an operating business.

But if I don't have the list and I don't really

know what I have to achieve Super simple,

everybody can do it.

It's the pencil and paper.

And I know you didn't say pen,

you said pencil,

pencil. It's the pencil and paper,

but it's what you do with those.

And I love that.

Shelley, you eat the broccoli on the plate first.

I'm stealing it.

I'm using it.

Okay. All right.

And in terms of books,

have you listened or read any books lately that you would

like to share with our audience?

Sadly, not even close.

I work about 15 to 17 hour days,

so there's no books,

but I am on my way to Japan on Saturday.

And it's a 22 hour flight.

So I'm hoping to find something to read.

And if any of your listeners have any ideas of something

that would be inspiring,

I'm open.

I will send you over an email with a number of

books that I think are fabulous.

How about that?

Great. Thank you,

sir. You're welcome.

And give biz listeners,

as you know,

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book.com and make a selection.

And an audio book is on me.

How about that?

Even for you,

Shelly. Wow.

Thank you.

All right.

Now I would like to invite you to dare to dream.

I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.

It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.

So this would be your dream or your goal of almost

unreachable Heights that you would wish to obtain.

Please accept this gift from all of us and open it

in our presence.

What is inside your box?

Okay. I love this question.

Oh my God.

It's like a fairy godmother.

The first is investment capital.

I need to capitalize this company to grow.

So the gift would be a really wonderful investor who believes

in Luxe bloom and the promise that we're delivering and wants

to be an angel and helping us make our vision a

reality on a broader scale.

The second would be I talk a lot about luck because

I don't believe in luck.

The way that I think people get lucky is by planting

seeds. Thousands of seeds.

I tell the story a lot is if you read anything

about how a bamboo forest,

where I was in Asia,

you have to plant the seeds in year one,

nothing happens year two,

nothing happened.

I mean,

nothing, not a bud,

nothing. And then one day overnight in 48 hours,

an entire bamboo forest appears out of nowhere.

It's a miracle.

Actually. I've been planning bamboo seeds now for three years and

I am seeking to create our bamboo forest with qualified leads,

wonderfully happy clients and happy consumers.

So I think the second thing in the box would be

seeds to plant more bamboo for us for lots of will.

There you go.

And I think what you're talking about with the bamboo seeds

is so powerful because as entrepreneurs you go places,

you never know what seed you drop along the way is

going to be the one that's just going to blow everything

out of the water.

So that's a great analogy as well,

for sure.

All right.

Give biz listeners go over to the show notes page.

I'm going to have all of Shelly's social media sites,

the website.

I want you guys to go and take a look at

this product.

It is unbelievable.

I've said that a million times,

but that's because I don't lie to you.

It is.

And we're going to continue watching you Shelly,

on your journey and what happens.

And there is no question in my mind that those bamboo

seeds, all of a sudden are going to be turning into

this wild,

big floral forest.

In your case,

on behalf of all our listeners,

we wish you all the best,

good luck travel safely to Japan this weekend.

And we will definitely be following you,

go onto QVC.

Next time when she's doing the teacup roses,

we all need to get our own,

of course.

And may your candle.

Shelly always burned bright.

Sue. It's been a pleasure.

Thank you so much and good.

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