263 – Take Control of Your Fear with Jennifer Allwood

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Today we're going to hear from Jennifer Allwood.

Her new book was released a short time ago and couldn't

be more timely.

Fear is not the boss of you.

When she reached out about being on the show,

I rearranged my lineup to include her as soon as I

could. Right now,

I know a lot of you are experiencing fear that's expected

and completely understandable,

but the truth is fear plays a role in our lives

even when we're not in the middle of a pandemic.

Jennifer shares with us why?

This is how to work through fear and in the end,

not let it prevent you from living a life that in

your heart you truly want to live.

Here's my interview with Jennifer Today.

I am so excited to reintroduce you to Jennifer Allwood.

Jennifer is the passionate cheerleader of all women who adds biblical

truth to the modern day.

Big dream mantra.

She's the author of fear is not the boss of you,

how to get out of your head and live the life

you were made for.

And she's also the host of the Jennifer Allwood show.

Her no nonsense approach to doing things you're scared to do

and saying yes to God is helping women everywhere build the

life and the business of their dreams.

When she's not coaching.

She's living the dream with mr magic,

who's her husband,

Jason and therefore wild kiddos.

Noah Easton,

Arava, grace and their new bonus kiddo.

Ariana. Jennifer,

welcome back to the show.

Hi Sue.

I'm so glad to be here.

Thanks for having me.

I am thrilled that you're here and just to brief our

listeners in case we have some new timers here,

Jennifer and I spoke back last June episode 217 so if

you want to hear more about Jennifer,

her business,

her story,

all of that,

you can go back and reference that episode,

but for now we're going to move forward and all the

new things that have happened since then.

This. Yes,

yes. A lot of new things.

Well, start telling me the book,

like how did that all happen?

Well, I have known for a long time that I wanted

to write a book,

even when I was a little girl,

I can remember wanting to write a children's book.

I wanted to be a children's author when I was older.

I just loved to read.

And then for a good decade we were raised in small

babies. We had three kids and under six years and so

kind of the reading went out the door for a while.

But in recent years the kids have all grown up a

little bit.

Everybody's wiping their own bottoms.

So about four years ago I really decided that I was

ready to write a book and I wanted to take all

of my blog posts.

I've been doing DIY painting and home decorating and projects around

my house for years and years on my blog.

The magic brush back then.

And so I wanted to just take all those blog posts

and someone told me you could just wrap those all up

into a book,

like just copy and paste.

So I literally spent like months and months and months copying

and pasting my entire blog into like a word format.

And then I sass you and I just like waited,

weighed in.

I thought,

well surely somebody is going to reach out to me.

And there would be like,

Hey, we want to publish this book,

but still just in word format on your laptop.

We heard about it through the grapevine somehow,

and of course that never happened,

but I did get introduced to a book agent about two

years ago and her and I had some long conversations about

my desire to write a book and she said,

so do you still want to write a DIY book?

And I said,

I actually don't,

like I don't,

God has really pivoted me out of the painting,

the DIY industry into coaching women in the online space.

And so that's no longer even a topic I wanted a

book on.

And so then we really had to start kind of fleshing

out, well,

okay, so what is a book you'd want to write?

What do you feel like is a book that you'd be

happy to 10 years down the road,

have put that out into the world?

And so we really worked on flushing that out and trying

to figure out kind of what I thought my gift to

the world could be or how I could help the most

women. And so we talked about writing a business book and

I just like,

I knew it wasn't a business book.

And so what it basically boiled down to is when I'm

helping women one-on-one or when I'm coaching them in business,

what I feel like can do best is encourage a woman

to do things in spite of her fear,

to see things from a different angle so that she realizes

that, look,

we've all got things that we're scared of doing,

but there's also things that you really need to do here

in this one lifetime that you're given.

And so that is what I wrote the book.

Such a big topic though,

and I agree with you and we talk about this often

in my coaching too,

is that it's the fear of doing and not taking action.

And when you don't take action,

nothing ever happens.

Right? So how did you,

and I wanted to get into some of the topics in

the contents of the book and by the way,

it's fabulous.

I already know that you are fulfilling your hope for this

book of helping a lot of women.

That's like already a given even though I know that it's

at the time that we're talking,

it's just now recently out in the world I believe.

Yeah. But we did hit number one bestseller on Amazon yesterday.

Amen. Congratulations.

Yeah. Literally though,

I mean it's the worst possible time to launch a book

simply because the whole world is really distracted right now with

what's going on in the world with Toronto bios and things.

But like I was telling my dad yesterday like I'm so

grateful that the book is a relevant topic to today.

I mean because we have more fear I think going on

in the world right now.

I'm at least glad that the topic is very relevant for

everyone. Yeah,

it definitely is.

And people have a lot of time to read,

so I'm glad they're looking.

I'm glad they're getting it cause I think it's going to

help even more.

So I think even moving on after we've conquered this,

we're back in whatever our new normal is going to be.

I think that the book is going to do so much

for so many people.

I want to go back to my question real quick.

Like how did you start diving into the topic of fear?

Dad even seems fearful to dabble this topic Well,

so I think we kind of started with the end in

mind. So what do you want to read or to walk

away from the book with and for me,

I really wanted a woman to walk away and go,

okay, I'm not alone.

I see now that every single woman fights with these same

exact emotions,

but there are still things on the side of heaven that

I need to do and should do to use the gifts

that I've been given to serve my family and my community

as well.

And so,

okay, what do I need to do now?

I wanted every woman when she was done to like almost

take a deep breath and go,

okay, all right,

so let's go.

So we started with kind of that in mind and then

I thought of all the different things that I feel like

are relevant to the topic of fear and the majority of

the women that I deal with,

things like imposter syndrome and things like feeling not good enough

and things like procrastination since I coached so many women who

are business owners,

like those topics come up a lot because I kept wanting

to like dig deeper and like,

okay, so why does a woman procrastinate?

Why does a woman feel imposter syndrome?

Why does she self sabotage?

Like take that even a step deeper.

And so we basically broke the book into several different sections.

So like the first section is basically asking,

okay, are you a woman who is stuck,

overwhelmed or scared?

And so part two is that,

okay, so how did you actually get there?

Because sometimes I think if we could figure out how we

got wherever we are,

it gives us clues as to how to get out of

there. So I think that there's a chapter on like watching

other people win on social media.

Sometimes we get really stuck and overwhelmed and scared to try

new things because we're watching all these other people and I'm

using air quotes like crazy right now to like be successful

in the online space and I love the internet.

This is how I make all of my money.

This is how my family,

we've run our business.

But the internet,

it's both a gift and it's also something that just can

hurt so badly in terms of following our dreams.

So I talk about that.

I talk about how if you're hanging out with a lot

of people who are stuck,

like that's going to keep you stuck.

I talk sometimes about how generationally we're often handed things from

our parents.

We stay stuck because that's kind of how we were raised

and we were raised around stuck people and a lot of

times those people,

although precious,

they want to keep us stuck.

So I looked at this whole like section I on how

you got to where you are and then really determining in

part three like are you actually ready to change?

Because I do know that there's a cost,

there's a price to be paid for breaking generational purses.

There's a price to be paid for being first in your

family to do something.

There's a price to be paid for getting out of your

comfort zone.

There's a price that has to be paid and so not

every woman is ready to do the dreams that are in

their heart or to make changes in her life.

So we talk about that.

I really give women like some tactical examples.

A lot of the women that I serve suit their mothers.

I love moms so much and I have three biological children.

We're in the process of adopting our fourth kiddo and I

find that so often moms will put themselves last on the

list. Now serve everybody else in the house and their community

and their family first and themselves last.

And so I talk in the book about how if you

can't serve yourself by way of doing the thing that you

feel like you're supposed to be doing or getting unstuck or

doing the thing you're scared to do,

could you do it for other people?

Could you do it for your kiddos because they're watching it?

Could you do it for your community because they're watching?

Could you do it for God if you're a woman of

faith? So we talked about that and then the last section

is just like,

Hey, I just want you to know that basically when you

decide that you're going to do the thing that you're scared

to do,

that you're going to get unstuck.

Like this is pretty much what you can expect to happen.

Like crash,

probably gonna hit the fan.

And I like to warn women of that because I think

so often they'll start like making moves and they'll start their

business or they're finally fill out the paperwork to buy a

new house or those shift jobs and then they'll kind of

be hit with resistance right off the bat and they'll think

that they've made a wrong decision.

That's definitely not the case.

And so we broke out the book into those like five

different sections and I think it's really helpful for women to

like have it broken out that way so they can kind

of see where they fit,

where they are and where they're going from here.

I absolutely agree with you and I think one of the

things that we all are driven to,

and even though I hear it over and over again,

even for myself,

I feel this way is I always feel like when I

reach my next goal,

whatever that is,

whether it's revenue,

whether it's followers,

whether it's students,

whatever, then like all the fear goes away,

right? You're not judging them.

Imposter syndrome goes away.

You're not anxious anymore.

Things are just smooth sailing.

Yeah. If it's a phone,

like I talk in the book about that too,

about how there's so many people that we think are like

making it air folks.

They're successful and they struggle with the same thoughts and the

same fears and the same everything that we do.

There's a saying by Joyce Meyer,

she says,

new level,

new devil.

And so I think that we think too,

that once I get to this size,

once I get to this place in life or this part

of my business that I'll have a control on this.

But literally every time you kind of level up,

whether it's in business or life or,

or however,

there's always like new things coming at you and new things

that make you wonder if you're good enough if you can

actually do this.

And so I do think that it's such an illusion for

us to think that we're ever going to have like smoothing.

I wish that that was the case,

but it's just not,

it's just not.

You just accept that that's the way it is and just

adjust to the fact that everyone's the same way and you

just, I don't know who said it,

but get comfortable with being uncomfortable.

Absolutely. A hundred percent I was thinking the other day about

how do you ever,

like right now we're in the middle of being in a

stay at home order here in Kansas city.

We're on week four so and apparently I eat my feelings

apparently all my feelings right now,

but I was telling somebody being there,

being like I could look back on pictures of myself like

10 years ago,

20 years ago,

I can remember the girl in high school myself in high

school and I remember thinking,

gosh, I thought I was frumpy,

fluffy. I thought I was chunking then and I'm like,

Oh my gosh,

what was I even thinking?

And I think sometimes that's how we are in life in

general. Like now I can look back at things that I

worried about,

freaked out over a decade ago and things that kept me

stuck and now I'm like,

Oh my gosh.

Like what was I even thinking that was being so ridiculous

making that hard phone call?

Why was I so intimidated by that?

Writing that really hard email signing up for that new class.

Like why did I make that into such a big deal?

Why was that so hard for me?

And so I think we're constantly in this like mode of

growing and God's growing us and we're being stretched and we're

being developed and grown into the person that we're supposed to

be. And so I don't know that we ever finally ride

to make it.

Yeah, I mean,

I think it's so big in the moment that you're doing

these things,

but like you said,

when you look back,

it's just like this little speck of time and really whatever

happens, like let's say the worst thing that you could think

of happens really doesn't mean that much in the long term

when you're looking at a few years out.

Yeah. Well,

I had a friend make a really great point to me

yesterday. I'm in a mastermind with her for business and she's

been reading my book and she said,

Jennifer, it's just like,

it's really good.

And I'm like,

Oh thank you so much.

And she's like,

no, I mean like it's really good.

I'm like,

Oh Hey,

you know,

I'm saying thank you so much.

She goes,

here's what she said,

she couldn't get over.

She goes,

I'm reading your book and I'm thinking this has to be

so hard.

Like you worked for a year to lay this out.

And I went through four different copies and I got down

to six days before the deadline for the book and I

threw away the third copy and started the book over because

I didn't like it.

And at uni gram three and sometimes we do crazy things

like that.

And so she's like,

I can't imagine how much work that wasn't how hard that

was to get it out into the world and lodging it

like you are.

And yet the last time I was with you in Canada

cause we were in Canada together for a mastermind,

a bunch of girls wanted to go to a hip hop

dance class and back in high school I used to do

dancing like on the drill team and stuff.

I loved it.

I did a ton of dancing like in my college years.

And then I got to this point where I like,

I still want to dance but I feel like middle aged

and I feel like I don't move the way I used

to and I look like a 48 year old woman instead

of a teenager.

And so I've gotten like so far away from dancing that

when a bunch of girls in my mastermind wanted to go

to my hip hop dance class,

I literally freaked out and they were like,

Jen, come on.

And I'm like,

I can't do it.

Like I literally can't dance in front of a room of

people. And so Susan was so precious.

She's like,

help me understand how you can write a book and put

it out into the world.

And yet you could not get like you freak out over

a dance class and isn't that funny?

Like the things that terrify us and the things that we

allow to have control.

I eventually did go to the hip hop dance class with

them in the spring time,

but gosh,

it just,

it's so interesting to me how all of us have things

that we're scared of and that we're scared to do and

they kind of rear their heads at the oddest moments.

It's true.

Why does that happen?

I'm not,

but I think you know,

if there was only a way that we could,

when we're in that moment,

remember, okay,

two months from now this isn't going to matter or everybody

else in that hip hop class is going to be feeling

the same way or won't it be great when I'm doing

videos on tick tock Jenner.

Okay. My 12 year old daughter,

she keeps asking me to tick tock whether I think one

of these days I'm going to have to,

I've done a couple with her but we haven't like published

them or she's put them on her account instead of mine.

But anyway.

Yeah. I'm like,

gosh, I'm probably gonna.

It's so funny,

like God's had me in this.

It's been eight years now that I keep having different things

put in front of me that I want to do,

but then I'm scared to do and then I have to

muster up the courage to do,

and courage by the way,

is different than confidence.

I have that whole conversation in the book because we're never

confident in the beginning.

We can't be confident about something we've never done before,

and so like right now it's so funny,

the hip hop dance thing and the tic TAC,

that is totally like something that I keep looking at thinking,

why am I so nervous about doing this?

It's dumb.

It's dancing,

dancing. I know,

but you feel vulnerable for sure.

A hundred percent and if you in the past,

because like you,

I was in cheerleading and dance and gymnastics and all of

that, I would no sooner do some of those moves now.

Not a chance.

Right. But I want to get back to this point because

I want everyone,

first of all to really be listening to what Jennifer's saying

and get the book because it's really going to help you.

But I also want them to take away something that we're

talking about right here and we've already given people some good

things to think about.

But one of the things you talked about,

and I'm going to relate this to your hip hop,

is you're talking about being confident or having courage and you

talk in the book about sometimes the lack of confidence is

really the lack of,

because when You have the experience,

you'll feel more confident.

Yep. That's a hundred percent then I relate it to like

when each of our kiddos learn how to walk.

Like I couldn't expect them to be confident about walking and

when they started to walk,

like how would they ever feel confident about something that they

have never done before?

Right. And I think about how like our son's getting ready

to go to college or how our daughter we're adopting,

you know,

we should the first day of kindergarten this year and she

was so nervous and like there's no way I could look

at her and expect her to be confident.

She never by the kindergarten.

This is all new.

And so I think that so many women are waiting to

do things until they feel confident.

But the truth is they need courage and confidence may or

may not come afterwards.

And I talk a lot.

I have a whole chapter in the book where I talk

about how God used the triathlon for my 40th birthday to

kind of demonstrate this to me over and over.

I've done 10 triathlons in the last eight years and I've

had a panic attack in the water on every single triathlon

because I had to learn how to swim as an adult.

As a 39 year old woman,

I started taking swim lessons.

I had never put my head under water on purpose.

And so I'm still not a confident swimmer,

but I am confident that I'm not going to die.

And the truth is I just keep being courageous and just

keep signing up for another triathlon.

I didn't go for another triathlon.

So there's such a huge difference between courage and confidence.

And it saddens me when I see confidence being sold to

people because you can't buy it.

Like you can't manifest it,

you can't buy it.

You can't Cray it into existence.

Confidence only comes from doing things that you're scared to do

and realizing,

Oh my gosh,

it did not kill me.

Proving to yourself that you can do it.

Exactly. You need that evidence to yourself that you can do

hard things and still make it.

And that's how you will eventually perhaps maybe walk around a

little more competently,

but not all the time.

I think confidence is such a weird thing and I see

it being marketed and sold and packaged up and put in

books and courses and classes and the bottom line is you've

just got to do the thing over and over without confidence

in the beginning.

You just need courage.

And hopefully competence will come.

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Part of the conversation about confidence right now is going live

on call it Instagram,

Facebook, you know,

wherever you know it's like the Mel Robbins five,

four, three,

two one push the start button.

Just start talking,

right? Yeah.

Well and right now,

I mean and you know this is what I actually coach

women in is like how to build a business in the

online space using social media.

And I was just telling someone else this morning,

right now where we're in the middle of the world looking

a little different,

a lot different than than a month ago.

People are craving live interaction so much and then we can't

meet face to face.

But the best thing you can do is try to meet

people in the online space with video and the Instagram stories

or I think the blacks cause we're craving like eye contact.

We're crazy being seen and seeing others and so it's such

a great time to be using live video.

Absolutely agree with you.

And you come as you are.

You be who you are.

You're not trying to replicate anybody else.

But the point that we're talking about here is just to

have the courage to do it.

And you said earlier,

Jennifer is like,

think of the other person that you're helping.

Don't put the eyes on yourself.

Put the eyes on your audience,

that one person in the audience and who you're helping.

Yes, exactly.

A hundred percent if when you quit thinking just only about

yourself, it really puts things in a different perspective and I

think that when we're completely me focused me,

focused me,

focus, the confidence thing becomes a bigger deal.

But when we are looking at everybody else,

then we're able to more lean into our courage because I've

got four kids in this house who are watching mom.

They need mom to be courageous because who's going to teach

them that?

Social media follow you on half a million people watching me.

I don't need to be confident,

but I do need to be courageous and show up for

them too.

So yeah,

I'm all about living with courage and confidence.

It may or may not show up.

You say something else in your book that I won't challenge

you because I totally agree with,

but I think that there will be people who will have

to go back and read it again.

And that is,

you know,

you talk about,

and I see this also is that people aren't,

because I work with people to help them turn their hobby

or their craft into a business and then you're focusing specifically

online growing the business,

like all of that.

But I see resistance so much when people are saying,

yeah, but my kids are still young yet I'm not quite

ready. And I kind of feel like that's just okay,

I'm going to dip my toe in.

But I have a great excuse if I can't do it

right now because my kids are still too young.

So it's either the time or the attention and we all

know my kids are grown now,

so I'm a little farther along with it than you are.

But what you talk about is your children have to see

that you care about other things in addition to them.

It's not always about them.

Yeah, it can't be.

If your kids think that life completely revolves around them,

that your life revolves all around them and serving them.

I mean imagine when they get out into the real world

someday and the disservice you'd have just done that.

And I tried to really remind women,

you were someone before you were someone's mom and before you

were someone's wife,

I guess we were supposed to serve our families.

And you know that I love the Lord with all my

heart. It,

it is biblical to serve your family,

to serve your and all of that.

And yet God has a call on your life too.

And so sometimes that may look like,

like I shutter to think that I,

cause I raised all three kids,

I stayed home full time with them and started my business

from home and wasn't changing diapers and faxing over invoices at

the same time.

So I know all about raising my kids while I'm building

a business.

It pains me when I see women say that they can't

and they blame it on the kids.

And I still often wonder is it really that you can't

or is it just a way to self protect isn't a

way for you to just keep putting off the thing that

you really want to do because it's easier to say I

don't have the time or I can't make the time right

now. Then to actually start doing it and see if it

would actually work.

Most of the time it's a self protection thing and I

really challenge women to think too like who is going to

teach your kids what it looks like to be courageous and

to live for something bigger than themselves.

If all they see is you living for them,

like you have to demonstrate for them.

The schools teach our kids algebra and Spanish classes and go

to church on the weekends and they're getting taught by the

children's pastor there and who's teaching our kids courage.

That has to be us as parents.

It has to be.

Yeah, and to think for themselves because there may be a

time when you're not going to be there,

right. The second a soccer game starts or you know,

whatever the activities are,

but you're on your way and there are times they have

to think for themselves,

I've got to get my uniform on right.

Or whatever the issues are.

You can't always necessarily be there.

And you hear about the helicopter to save the day.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think that served people well.

We don't give our children enough credit.

Yeah. We don't let them show themselves that they can do

it. And my kids can figure out how to make videos

on tic-tac.

They can sure figure out how to come off the floor.

There you go.

And so did you always feel that way or did you

have to come to this way of thinking as you started

your business while you were home and your kids were home

too? Well,

I think that as I've grown as a business owner and

grown as a thought leader,

then I sit and think a lot about what I think.

And then I've noticed more too,

just how other ways of thinking.

Like sometimes I think you can kind of figure out what

you're calling.

Maybe I also figured out the things that really like cause

you like so much irritation and you're like,

Oh my gosh,

that just makes me so mad when I see people doing

XYZ. So I think I'm just really trying to lean more

into that.

I always knew that I wanted to be home full time

with my kids.

If I had started my teen business right before we got

pregnant with our oldest son Noah.

And so then they were like making money and I and

the business was doing well and I'm like,

well I don't want to just close it down.

Like how can I figure it out and how can I

figure out a way where I can still make this income

but still be able to be home full time with Noah

if I kept having more kids right in a row after

that. And so I think that I've always been somebody who

just, I'm scrappy enough to try to figure it out.

Tips for anyone.

We're talking about the confidence and the courage and that you

just have to get started.

Any tips for People who are listening here are right at

the starting line of something and they just can't do it.

They can't step over and get going.

Sure. So I talk in the book about algebra.

I talk about how often when I feel like I need

to do something that's a big,

hard and scary and it doesn't mean that that could be

launching a book.

That could be a hip hop class,

right? Like what's big to me may not be big to

you and vice versa.

And so when I'm thinking,

okay, that's just something I want to do or I feel

like I'm supposed to be doing,

but I'm scared to do it,

you have to figure out what is your own personal algebra

problem. When I walk this through,

I can't remember which chapter it is,

but I walk it through in one of the chapters,

if you're not the boss of you.

So for me,

basically my algebra problem is this.

I have to figure out what is on the other side

of that greater than sign that we used to do that

in sixth grade.

Algebra like four is greater than 200 to the 90 and

so for me,

what is greater than fear?

So you have to figure out the things in your life

that are more important than your feelings of fear.

So for me,

number one has got,

so if I feel like God's allowing me to do something,

like my answer needs to be yes,

even though I'm scared.

Number two,

it's my family.

I have a husband and children who need for mom to

really show up and because they're watching and more with our

kids is caught than taught.

So I can be teaching my kids and talking to them

all day long about courage,

being brave and putting out for the soccer team and try

out for the play or whatever.

But if they don't see mom like demonstrating that in real

life, like then it's just all hypocrisy and words.

And the last thing is showing up for our community.

So I think we all have people that are watching,

whether it's the neighbor girl or the woman at the grocery

store. If we ever get to go back to grocery stores

or like I have a half a million social media at

the answer,

I have a responsibility,

a responsibility to show up for those people and the people

who call me mom and my husband who calls me white.

And so whenever I have something big,

hard and scary right in front of me and I'm like,

I just can't,

like, it feels too big.

Then I'm like,

okay, but this guy calling me to it because my family

need this from me or does my community need this for

me? And a lot of times that will spur me into

action when I take the focus off of myself and realize

that I have to live or things outside of just me.

This was a big point that I really never thought about

before reading the book.

I mean I always think of my audience,

the people who are listening to me for business,

you know,

for some type of business purpose,

but not really the fact that the other people that you

interact with.

And I'll tell you like my friends,

some of the other people in the clubs that I'm part

of are watching what I'm doing.

They're never going to start their own businesses,

but I'm modeling things for them.

That may be they'll start other things maybe that like I

have a friend who just started second city because she thought

it would be fun to act when she has the courage

for that.

So it's not all about business always.

It's about building a richer life and not at the end

saying, man,

I wish I would have done something like this.

You A hundred percent yes and I talk about that like

if people are watching you and if they can watch you

slay your own dragons,

it gives them like this permission and this little bit of

courage try to go slay the wrong and that could be

like exactly what you said,

building a business.

It could be adopting a child,

starting their family that way.

It could be switching jobs like whatever it is for them,

but when people see you do big,

hard and scary things and they see you do it afraid,

it means so much more courageous to do that in their

own life.

Absolutely, and I think it's also not always that they see

us do it and we're successful because that could even make

them more scared.

Right. They see that maybe we stumble a little bit and

we keep going and maybe it's a different version of what

we initially intended,

but we did it by,

gosh, how was that?

I agree with that.

Well, I know your time is limited.

You probably have like a million interviews you're doing for this

book. You have a lot,

but it's great.

I love being here.

I really do.

Well and I'm glad you are because I'm glad the message

is getting out.

Please share with everybody like in a sentence or two yours

synopsis of what the people are going to get from your

book. Yeah,

so many people have described it exactly like I hope it's

like getting a big hug from a friend who says you

can do it,

girl, but you're also getting a Swift kick in the pants

and like being told not to get out there and go.

And so if you're somebody who has stuck,

overwhelmed or have been really just trapped with fear,

it's a book that's going to,

I think,

give you the courage to get after the thing in life

that you're really wanting.

Beautiful. And we can find it on Amazon.

I know it's hard back.

Is it other versions as well?

It's on audible and I read it myself,

so it's on audible.

It's on Kindle.

You can find it@walmart.com

target.com we're praying that we're going to get it into the

actual physical stores,

but it is on books,

a million Barnes and noble and Amazon.

Wonderful. Well thank you so much for being here.

I so appreciated gift biz listeners.

I highly recommend this book.

I know it will do so much and open your eyes

in so many different ways.

For a lot of you who I've been interacting with,

so get Jennifer's book,

make, do a review on Amazon for her.

That always helps.

We'd like to help you get into Barnes and noble or

wherever you're wanting to go.

Maybe it's the airport bookstores,

I don't know,

but I'm pretty sure we're going to see it there.

Jennifer, From your lips to God's ears,

so thank you for that.

I appreciate it.

Oh, well thank you so much for being here today and

sharing some of your book.

Take care of it.

What better time than now to head over to Amazon and

grab Jennifer's book.

I know it will serve you well and if you take

her guidance to heart,

you'll emerge from our quarantine with a new approach.

It's exciting to think of what that's going to be next

week. We're tackling the topic of organizing.

I've watched all of you arrange your work rooms,

redo your websites,

and organize your closets and kitchens.

Now we'll take it to another level.

See what I mean when you listen in next week.

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