243 – How to Sell Left Over Holiday Products with Alesia Galati

Alesia GalatiAlesia is an e-commerce business strategist. She helps physical product sellers increase their revenue, improve profit margins and bring home more cash while creating a sustainable business.

After six years in the manufacturing and packaging industry, Alesia’s learned a thing or two about how to work with international and domestic vendors, make strategic production plans, analyze trends and utilize marketing strategies.

This is what she brings to assist product-based businesses.

Alesia lives in North Carolina with her fellow nerd husband, two wild boys and a rescue dog. She loves all things savory – cue the lasagna and glass of Cab.

Business Building Insights

  • As a business owner, you must watch your numbers. See where dollars are being tied up in inventory, how actions affect the bottom line and keep your overall costs in check.
  • Have a plan for safety stock during the holidays. You don’t want to miss out on sales growth because you don’t have the materials or product to sell.
  • A strategy to consider is bundling your products during and after the holidays. That way you can quickly sell consumable or holiday themed products and turn product into usable cash.
  • Your email list is the key to push those bundle sales because customers will feel it’s an exclusive deal for them.
  • See what the numbers indicate as you prepare for the following year.
  • No mistake is a mistake if you learn from it.

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Gift biz unwrapped episode 243 the first mistake that I definitely

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Christmas is only four weeks away.

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You guys,

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one week less than you'd normally have to bring in sales

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and go through your holiday themed inventory.

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getting the most out of your holiday items as possible.

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Let's get right to it Today.

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It is my pleasure to introduce you to Alicia Galodie.

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Alicia is an eCommerce business strategist.

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She helps physical product sellers increase their revenue,

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improve profit margins,

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and bring home more cash while creating a sustainable business.

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After six years in the manufacturing and packaging industry,

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Alicia has learned a thing or two about how to work

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with international and domestic vendors,

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make strategic production plans,

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analyze trends,

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and utilize marketing strategies.

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This is what she brings to assist product based businesses.

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Alicia lives in North Carolina with her fellow nerd husband.

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Her words,

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not mine,

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two wild boys and a rescue dog.

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She also loves all things savory,

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so Q,

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the lasagna and the glass of cab.

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Alicia, you're right up my alley.

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I love that.

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Welcome to the gift biz on rep podcast.

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Yes. Thank you so much for having me,

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so I really appreciate it.

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I am really excited to get into the conversation.

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I'm not going to share with the listeners yet what we're

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going to be talking about,

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but it is so timely and relevant.

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Before we dig in though,

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I would like for you to share with us a little

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bit something creative,

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which would be what a motivational candle would look like that

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resonates with you.

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So if you were to tell us a color and a

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quote on a candle that speaks all you,

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Alicia, what would the candle look like?

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So for color,

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I was thinking like an ivory or a cream because I

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am all about being able to be multifaceted and fit anywhere

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in the house.

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Just make things work as long as it can be like

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functional, but it can be in the bathroom or it can

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move to the kitchen wherever you need it to be.

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That's where it can be.

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So I was thinking like an ivory cream cause it goes

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with anything.

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There you go.

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Okay. And what about a quote or a saying or mantra,

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something like that?

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Yeah, so I would say something like,

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so Mark is a really,

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is one of my favorite kind of like inspirational,

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motivational quote or people.

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And he says this thing that I have everywhere,

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I have it on my desktop,

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I have it on little sticky notes everywhere.

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And this is very little is needed to make a happy

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life. It is all within yourself in your way of thinking.

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And that resonates so much with me because I didn't really

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grow up in the best home situation and the cards were

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always against me.

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But yet by perseverance and choosing to make my life what

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I want it to be,

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I have been able to graduate while working a full time

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job, be a mom and graduate and have a full time

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job. Like all those different things.

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Just perseverance and make the life that you want.

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That's up to you.

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Love it.

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I think that that will resonate with a lot of people

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who are listening to and you know,

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I don't know where we got to on the material side

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of that type of thing.

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In terms of very little as needed material wise,

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I think we're gravitating back to that now.

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But that whole pressure of keeping up with the Joneses,

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with material,

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things like the car you drive,

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the products you have that house size or whatever I think

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is finally starting to go away because people are understanding what

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you're saying in the quote that very little is needed.

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No for happiness.

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Absolutely. So I love that.

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You know,

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the other thing that I think comes to mind when I

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was hearing you talk about this is I think also when

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you start talking about education,

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it's a great way to continue doing something that's,

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I'm not going to say education and getting degrees is easy,

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but it's kind of safe because you know you're in school,

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you know you're educating,

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you're not actually out there doing and proving yourself.

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So in a way it can be something that you can

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hide behind.

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What do you think of that?

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Absolutely. So little background about me,

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I used,

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lived in New Jersey a couple of years ago and I

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was pumping gas at a Wawa and trying to finish my

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associate's degree and had just moved in with my now husband

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and he was then my boyfriend and networking talking ended up

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getting a manufacturing job cause obviously boots to the ground.

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That's just my attitude.

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So they were like,

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Hey, it's manual labor.

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I think you'll be good at it.

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And so I did.

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I went into it and I still,

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I took night classes.

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I was doing that and then I got pregnant and I

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could have easily just said,

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Oh, you know what,

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the pregnancy and the school like,

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let's hide behind that.

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But being the ambitious person that I am and the high

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achiever, I was like,

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no, I am going to go all the way with this,

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make this my career.

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Didn't really know about the online space at the time,

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but knew,

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Hey, I want to get this degree.

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I want to finish my education,

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but I also want to be able to have that work

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experience that's going to help me longterm because if you hide

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behind just the degree,

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and I believe a lot of people and young people are

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realizing this now that that work experience is going to take

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you way further financially because of all the school debt,

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but also like in your mind and having that experience.

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It's going to take you so much further than if you

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just sit in a classroom.

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Absolutely agree with you.

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So you sound very confident.

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You and I don't know each other.

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We're just getting to know each other on this interview.

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Right. But you sound very confident.

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Were you at all hesitant to make that move?

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Jumping in,

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you know,

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I know you were doing education on the side too,

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but getting that experience right at that time,

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or did it feel totally natural and you were,

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you're the type of person that could just go do it.

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It felt like the right thing to do to me just

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because I did grow up in a single parent home,

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so working was always something that you kind of have to

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do and I didn't have the luxury of,

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Oh well,

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you know,

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I can just live at my mom's house or do that

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and be pregnant and go to school.

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Then going to a community college,

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like you don't have housing to just live in,

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you have to get your own house,

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you have to do your own thing.

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And I was on my own besides my now husband,

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but he wasn't working at the time,

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so it was really just like up to me.

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All right,

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you're, we're going to do that.

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Which is funny because fast forward five,

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six years now,

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I still work a full time job.

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I have finished my degrees,

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but now my husband is a stay at home dad.

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Oh that's cool.

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I love that.

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So initially it was necessity.

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I mean you really didn't have a choice whether you were

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anxious about it or not.

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This was what you two saw was the best next step

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for you both really.

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And so you just jumped in.

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Absolutely. Okay.

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Well so tell us now,

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I'm really curious.

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What are you doing for your full time job?

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Yeah, so I recently changed in the last year I was

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a production planner for an international gas company and I was

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doing production planning on the shop floor,

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taking care of customer orders,

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that kind of thing.

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So I learned a lot about the production side and I

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would also work with international vendors to get our steel and

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our aluminum and all those things so that we could produce

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the products.

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Then I recently moved to a more corporate side of the

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packaging industry.

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So now I work for a motor oil company,

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very small kind of almost family run style,

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so it's completely different than the international multi trillion dollar company

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and now I'm working for someone who is more small town.

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They cook breakfast for you most mornings.

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That kind of like attitude but doing inventory analysis for their

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multiple facilities,

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being able to give upper management and the leadership team,

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those statistics and that data so that they can make the

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right decisions for the company.

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Got you.

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And Although both of these products,

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gas and motor oil,

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so very industrial don't relate as much to our audience.

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I think the skills that you learned really early on and

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at a massive level running huge volumes and production and also

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inventory apply.

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Then even to makers here whose inventory is a little bit

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smaller, little bit more manageable,

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but you're bringing in the big power to the topic I

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guess is the way I'll say it.

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Yes. And I was in the online space for a few

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years and I saw,

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you know,

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serving service based businesses and doing some marketing,

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doing some social media management and not really being able to

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feel like I was using my day job in this side

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business. And then I realized like there aren't as many resources

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or visible resources in the online space for product businesses and

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with massive platforms like Shopify or Etsy or things like that.

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I was like why aren't there more resources?

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And that's when I discovered podcasts like yours and businesses like

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yours that are helping these product businesses.

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And I was like,

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I want to do that.

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I want to be able to use the expertise that I've

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developed over the last six years to be able to scale

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it down and help these businesses who otherwise might not have

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those resources because they are so creatively minded.

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Right. And that's a big point too is the skills and

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the talent are more on the creative side versus the analytical

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number side,

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which is also why we shy away from all the financial

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stuff too.

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Yes. So on the side you're working with eCommerce businesses and

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helping them do what.

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So helping them really be able to feel empowered to look

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at their numbers and understand maybe where their profit margins can

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be changed or adjusted,

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how they're pricing their products,

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where they're resourcing their products from making sure that they are

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getting the best buy they are utilizing their min and max

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levels, making sure they have that safety stock for holidays and

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for those busier seasons without getting overwhelmed with having too much

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where it carries over to the new year,

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all that stuff.

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So just really being able to hand them that information in

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a very digestible way,

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but also empowering them that if you want to,

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this is how you can look at your numbers too,

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because I feel so strongly about empowering the women that I

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work with to really be able to take it and run

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with it and create that business that they dream about building.

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Wonderful. Yeah.

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And to manage it on their own and work with the

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numbers that then obviously affect the profits that are going to

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come into the company.

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Yes. So.

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All right,

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so here we are.

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We're sitting in December and if you're listening to this live

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gift biz listeners,

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maybe you are,

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maybe you aren't because you're so busy right now with orders

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coming in,

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promotions. I mean holiday sales are definitely in full swing right

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now. And I think that something that happens to us a

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lot Aleesha as makers is we have that challenge with,

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I know what my sales were last year,

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my business has advanced since last year.

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How in the world do I predict how much product I

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need because I don't want to lose sales if I don't

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have product yet.

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Again, I don't want to buy too much because that inventory

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might sit.

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And so it's a challenging balance that I think we all

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face every year.

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So I don't know if you have any comments about that,

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but it's going to lead to what do we do then

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at the end when holidays are over and we're left with

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inventory, that if it just sits there,

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it's dollars on the shelf.

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Right? So what direction can you give me with both of

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those types of things?

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Yes. So to answer your first question,

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when you're looking at your business overall and you're seeing,

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okay, I have increased my sales 10% let's make it a

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nice pretty number,

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10% my sales have increased from last year,

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then I would feel confident in saying that your sales are

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going to increase,

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your holiday sales specifically will increase 10% now you might want

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to throw in a little bit of extra safety stock to

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make sure that,

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say they ended up being 20% more than last year.

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You still already have that safety stock on hand and you

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have all of those lead times nailed down where you are

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ready to go,

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you know?

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Exactly. So if you're hand making your product,

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you know exactly how long it's going to take you to

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quickly make up those products that you need to,

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you have enough on hand to cover you for those specific

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days that you will be making more product.

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That's what I mean when I'm saying those lead times,

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and I know some of you might not understand those kinds

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of verbiage,

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so please stop me if you're like,

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Hey wait.

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They might not know what that means.

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Okay. You know I will.

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I will definitely do that.

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Yes. I definitely want to be able to explain it.

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Yeah, So looking at it in that sense,

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you want to make sure that you are focusing on those

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numbers and I know it gets really hard because your business

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is your baby.

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You're creating this product and you're like,

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everybody's going to love it and your sales might've even dipped

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this year and you might feel like,

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okay, well if sales dip this year,

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then my holiday sales might dip.

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That's true.

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So plan for that,

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but also have that little bit extra on the side.

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Let me just jump in here with one thing that I'm

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thinking. I think it also does vary by industry a little

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bit. And let me explain what I mean when you say

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if you've had 10% up through the year,

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you're riding at a solid clip,

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10% increase,

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then holidays you can definitely do 10% or maybe more if

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traditionally you found that all your business falls in the holidays.

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But I also think it can be industry dependent a little

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bit too,

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how much of a risk you take.

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Because if you have a themed product where you're buying lots

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of things that are Santa Claus or dreidels or things like

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that, that's inventory that you can't use any other time of

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the, so you might want to be a little more conservative

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because it's not as easy to do flash sales afterwards or

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whatever you're going to recommend for the second question.

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Okay. But also if you have a consumable product where your

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product expires,

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then that's just wasted product if you don't sell it.

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So I think in those two cases you have to be

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a little bit more careful in which point you want to

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have a good backup system.

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Maybe multiple vendors.

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If you run out of a product you want to be

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able to refill it,

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but other products where you're getting the components and they aren't

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just holiday specific and they don't expire,

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I think you can take more of a chance.

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Do you agree with the thinking here?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So on the part of the Santa Claus and holiday specific

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products, so for things like Hanukkah products,

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you definitely can only sell those in that December timeframe,

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but some Santa Claus things you might be able to sell

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for Christmas in July next year.

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So if you do have a tiny bit more extra than

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maybe you had planned for,

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then you always have that option.

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For people who like to start shopping a little ahead of

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time for those Christmas in July sales and for my thoughts

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on the consumable products and the ones that have that timeframe

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where you kind of have to get rid of them.

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That's going to tie into the second half of your question

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because a main part of how I work with my clients,

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especially after the holidays,

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is all about bundling your products in a way that makes

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sense for the consumer to say,

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Hey, yeah,

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absolutely. I definitely want that product.

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That makes sense.

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I want to buy the two and then get a free

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coffee mug or whatever it is,

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however you want to bundle it,

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and that way you can get rid of those consumable items

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a little quicker.

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All right,

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so let's get into the details of some of these strategies

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because although we don't necessarily need them right now,

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the time that the podcast is going live in about three

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or four weeks from now,

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I think I'm going to be resourcing people back to listen

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to this,

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to figure out what to do with some leftover inventory.

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So you started with bundling and for those listeners who might

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not understand what that is,

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let's start from the top with bundling idea.

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Yes. So if you are manufacturing coffee beans,

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that's one that I always love to use.

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And then you also say you're like coffee and there's a

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local weather cream,

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beans and cream.

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That's their business and they have coffee and they have ice

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cream. But see,

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I also have a line of coffee mugs that are specific

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to their business.

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They say beans and cream on them and they want to

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sell more coffee beans.

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So they are giving you a buy two coffee bean packets

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and you get a free mug.

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Say the mug is holiday specific.

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People still like holiday mugs.

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It doesn't matter what time of the year it is.

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People still love those kinds of things.

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I'm a big mug person and I get tied into target

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mug aisle.

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Every single time I would,

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my husband asked to say,

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Alicia, you have enough mugs.

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So I am all about if they're cute and fun,

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it does not matter what time of the year it is.

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I will buy it.

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So if it's seasonal,

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it's okay to sell that in January as a bundle.

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Don't feel like you have to be specific with that.

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If you can throw some snowflakes on it instead of Santa,

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you're going to have a longer lifespan for that product.

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Yeah. Are you saying that even if the mug has Santa

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on it,

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you can still sell it in January?

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Yes. I would definitely buy a Santa mug in January if

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it is cute enough and it's a buy to get the

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free mug.

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Absolutely. So you're kind of,

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you're in a way discounting the mug,

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but you're not leaving it as a standalone item.

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You're merging it with other product,

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which then could be incremental sales if someone's never tried the

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coffee beans before,

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they've got the mug ready for next holiday season,

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but they're also then getting the coffee beans and it looks

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like a deal.

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It looks like a deal to the consumer.

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Absolutely. And if you think,

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okay, my mugs are going to be a lot lower priced

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than say my coffee beans,

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that's my high ticket item.

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That is the thing that is my sales maker.

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That's what I'm pushing.

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Then that complimentary product,

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it's just icing on the cake for the customer.

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Right. And so the numbers still work out.

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If you were to play the numbers together for that new

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product that you've created,

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right? That has the mug,

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the two coffee packets.

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And what was the cream part?

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Oh no,

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I was just saying it's like icing on a cake.

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Okay. Alright.

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But the numbers still work out where you're making a margin

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on the product,

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right? Yes.

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All right.

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So bundling is one option in terms of what you can

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do to get rid of holiday stock.

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What else would you suggest?

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Yeah, so if your product is not seasonal specific,

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then I know that January is typically a time where people

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start winding down.

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Product makers aren't really making anymore during that time unless that

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is their peak season and but all is industry specific.

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But after the holidays you kind of want to wind down,

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take a little bit of rest time.

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But people are still buying.

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And I remember growing up it was always you don't buy

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certain items,

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clothing specifically during the holidays because it always gets up priced

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during that time.

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And then in January the market,

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the price tag goes down.

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So if you are making some type of embroidery shirts or

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things like that,

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then that's going to be a time where you might want

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to push your product a little more because people are going

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to be buying more electronics,

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things like that,

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the gift kind of giving for that season.

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Whereas if you maybe went a little too high on your

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inventory in the clothing department,

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then you can use January and early February to push your

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product. People aren't really as adverse to buying those kinds of

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things as they would during the holidays.

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How would you think about marketing some of this?

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Would there be specific different messages or what are you thinking

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there? So for that you're going want to use AB testing,

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see what kind of works,

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but you could use some type of post-holiday copy so you

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could say something in your messaging like now that you have

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that cash from grandma,

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then this is a great way to spend it.

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You might've wanted this.

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If you're in the Northern States,

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then January is definitely going to be a time where people

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are going to want to buy sweaters and those cowls and

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scarves, things like that,

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so you can definitely market to the upper half of the

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country. Whereas my husband was mowing the lawn in North Carolina

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January 1st last year.

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That is not fair to talk about.

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I'm in Chicago,

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I'm sorry,

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but you can target your ads specifically to those Northern States.

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If you are United States based and say,

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Hey look,

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I get it.

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It's cold.

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Here you go.

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Here's 10% off for new customers or 10% off for returning

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customers. Utilize your email list during this time to really push

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those sales because conversions on your website are usually what,

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2%. It's very low statistically speaking,

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but conversions on your email list are going to be a

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lot higher,

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so those emails that you've collected for the holiday,

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Hey, 10% off or giveaways you've done,

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whatever you've done to grow your email list up until this

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point is going to be key in helping you make those

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bundle sales because they're going to feel like it's an exclusive

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deal for them,

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which it can and will be exclusive for them.

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Only offering it to my email list first.

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You guys get first dibs on this inventory blow out or

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whatever you want to call it to create that excitement.

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Yeah, I think that point in terms of making that group

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of people feel really special or that there's a limited amount

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left, which to holiday product,

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there really is,

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you might have 200 left versus only two,

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but feeling that level of exclusivity and being special,

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getting the offer special,

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I think really holds a lot of weight.

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Absolutely. Okay.

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Can you share with us a client that you've worked with

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who did have leftover holiday inventory and how you helped manage

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them through the situation?

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We're going to get into the story with Alicia's client right

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Yeah, so one client,

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she makes baby blankets.

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Well, she produces them through a manufacturing company and she was

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struggling because several of her wholesalers had not sold through their

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inventory during the holiday season as she had anticipated.

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We looked at our numbers,

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said, okay,

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this is what we can expect in sales.

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They'll reorder,

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but it didn't pan out how we had anticipated.

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So she's applying the product to stores that are then selling

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the product?

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Yes. And so they're not holiday themed necessarily,

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but because that line didn't sell,

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she's not getting the reorder.

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So it's affecting her numbers.

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Correct. Right.

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Okay. So we were able to figure out,

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okay, if we can maybe add in a new product for

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next year,

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we knew that this product would eventually sell out as most

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seasonal products do.

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Eventually you will sell them.

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But we figured that okay to plan ahead for this next

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year we are going to want to do a few tweaks

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to both her website copy cause she does sell direct to

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customer as well.

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But also with the information that she's giving these wholesalers and

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these boutiques,

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how many she shipping to them,

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streamlining that reorder process for them so that if they do

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run out,

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she can quickly send it up there to them.

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But without really having that extra lagging inventory on their shelves.

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Oh so ordering less so that it's not sitting there but

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being able to refill it if itself.

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Correct. So streamlining that process was what definitely we hope to

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anticipate will help us this year better anticipate that.

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Okay. If they do sell a lot quicker this year,

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they'll have less product on their shelves,

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but we will be able to get it to them very

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quickly. Okay.

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So I'm just kind of curious in,

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this leads to the question that I was waiting on a

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second ago.

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It's kind of an equal play in terms of the responsibility

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of product selling through,

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right? Because your wholesale client,

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the one who makes the baby blankets wants to provide as

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much information.

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Maybe, I don't know that you would call them shelf talkers

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in gift shops,

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but some type of promotional material or make sure that that

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retailer understand why these baby blankets are so special and why

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they're different.

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Maybe from someone else's baby blankets.

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That would be probably part of the sale of getting the

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product placed in that gift shop in the first place.

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But then it's also the retailer's responsibility to sell through to,

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right. I mean where does that all fall in terms of

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visit 50 50 did you guys feel in this situation that

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it was more an issue on the retailer's end or your

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end or when you were thinking afterwards about how all this

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happened? Where did you feel besides what you're going to do

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next year in terms of the replenishment,

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but where did you feel it could have been better?

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Yeah, so I think it was a combination of both our

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part and the boutiques.

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They could have done a better job of,

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all right,

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this product is in my shop and I need to sell

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it. And that way I can make more money out for

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my business.

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But then also on our end,

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the promotional material could have been better.

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These baby blankets are not like the ones that you would

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get at Walmart or target or even Amazon.

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This is a specially made organic of material where we could

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have packaged it better in a way for our boutiques to

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better understand why this is such a high quality product for

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their customers and why their customers are gonna want to buy

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this product over something else.

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So really educating those boutiques to understand this is why you

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want our product,

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but also this is why you want to sell our product.

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Got it.

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Okay. And I'm also thinking from a gift shop owner perspective,

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that's something for those of you who are listening,

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who owned shops and you stock other people's products.

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So you're the recipient.

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So either retailer,

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obviously in this case,

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understanding what is provided by someone whose product you are now

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going to dedicate very valuable shelf space for because you're a

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shop. If you're physical,

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brick and mortar,

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you only have so much space.

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So each of those products has to be really valuable and

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important for your customer.

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But then you as the shop owner also have to understand

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and be able to explain why this is so special and

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why you're carrying it in the first place.

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So I think that always helps.

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Yes. As a shop owner and retail or don't feel like

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you can't go back to,

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especially if it's a small business,

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like they want the product to sell because they want to

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be able to that you buy more from them.

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So don't feel like you can't go back to them and

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say, Hey look,

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I'd really like a little more information on the product so

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I can sell more.

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Like this is a collaboration between both of you and asking

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those questions is going to make that deeper connection.

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It's all about the vendor management side when working with vendors

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and in the retail space,

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working with these smaller handmade businesses,

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if that's kind of where you're getting your products from,

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having those connections is going to grow your business because then

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they are making sure that you are getting the best product

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for your shop and that way you are able to sell

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the best product in your shop.

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So make sure that you feel okay and having those conversations

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up front or having your sales team do it however your

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business is set up.

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But making sure that those connections and those collaborations truly are

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there is going to take you further.

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Perfect. Okay.

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And we kind of got off on a little side road

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here. Let's go back again to talking about what you do

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about leftover holiday products.

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So you talked about the bundling,

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great idea and then seasonal specific strategies.

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Is there anything else you would suggest?

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I would suggest no other real promotional ways other than like

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your email list.

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If you need to run ad run ads,

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the marketing side,

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but take it as a lesson for next year.

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It's easy to say,

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Oh yeah,

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it was great last year.

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It was great,

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we sold and let's buy the same amount.

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But really next year is the time to be focusing on,

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okay, what did my numbers actually tell me and what did

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my sales actually tell me that I can use to prepare

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for this season?

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And I know typically you guys are preparing in like June

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and July.

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So taking that time as summertime to really focus on,

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okay, how can I better use this information to my advantage

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for next year so that I'm not stuck in the mud?

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Right. And I think that leads also to a point that

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after the holiday season is over and the Russia's done and

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some people's business honestly never takes a dip,

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it just starts going into January again.

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So whether you're that type of a retailer where it just

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keeps going or whether you get to sit back for a

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minute and breathe,

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catch your breath.

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I think that's still the point where you should jot down

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what did happen,

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what worked,

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what didn't work.

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Just even if it's on an eight and a half by

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11 sheet of paper that you're going to file somewhere.

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So Alicia,

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to your point to compare against what happened the prior year,

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if you don't do that,

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you're going to forget.

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So that's my 2 cents added in there because I know,

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I think I'll remember because it's just so dramatic and so

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much is happening at the time,

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but 12 months pass and you might not remember everything that

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you wanted to adjust for the next holiday season.

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Absolutely. So I always like to tell my customers that no

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mistake is a mistake if you learn from it.

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So if you are able to take that information,

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it's a learning lesson.

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It is a way that you can grow your business the

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next time around or the next season or the next year.

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However it is that you want to take that information.

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You are not failing as a business owner because you made

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a quote unquote mistake.

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It is simply something to learn from and we move on

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from here.

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Oh great.

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I'm glad you said that.

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Glad you brought that to the table.

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We always have to remind ourselves that I think though.

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All right,

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so you're an expert in inventory for sure.

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What mistakes have you seen with your clients?

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Maybe two or three things that you've been seeing that repeatedly

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happened that seemed to be the common mistakes for small business

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owners with their inventory?

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Yeah. Oh man.

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Okay. Like do you need me to extend that to a

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hundred different misdiagnosed?

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Just the top ones.

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Let's do top three.

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So the first mistake that I definitely see is this fear

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of inventory and understanding it,

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not counting it.

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Just kind of putting things on your shelf and then hoping

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it sells and then scrambling when you have sold out and

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then you've got quote unquote angry customers or maybe you do

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have literal angry customers.

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That is not what we want in your business.

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You have to be looking at those numbers.

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You have to be looking at your sales history to be

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able to make better decisions because even though you are a

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creative, if you want to take this business to the next

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level, increase your profit margins and be able to take more

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money home.

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You have to be making decisions based on numbers and not

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on the fear of looking at those numbers.

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So that's the first one that I definitely see.

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The second mistake that I see is you do get a

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system in place and you think,

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okay, well Shopify handles the inventory and the numbers and all

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that stuff and then you just assume that it's going to

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pop up something to tell you,

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Hey, you need to order more.

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Don't just simply rely on the system,

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understand maybe what it's trying to tell you and why it's

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telling you that.

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So that,

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and I guess this ties into the first one so that

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you can be able to make those better strategic decisions for

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your business.

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You can plan ahead for those sales increases during certain seasons

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and it tracks that for you.

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But understanding why and how.

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So going beneath just a raw number,

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but why is the number looking like it does?

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What does it mean and what does it suggest that you

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should be doing for the future?

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Exactly. Okay.

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And then another mistake that I see on the inventory side

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is this idea that if you just buy a bunch of

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inventory, then you'll be good.

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But you got to understand that that is money that is

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tied up on your floor,

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on your shop floor,

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that you are not able to use to invest back into

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your business,

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back into maybe different products back into yourself,

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your own self development as a business owner,

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that's money that's in your business,

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that's sitting there and waiting and not being able to be

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utilized for the business.

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So things like dead stock and that's something that I deal

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with very heavily in my day job is analyzing that dead

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stock. What are those products that have not moved in over

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a year,

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which you should be looking more on if you are a

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smaller business than the one that I'm dealing with on a

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more quarterly,

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a monthly basis.

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What is not move,

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why hasn't this product moved?

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Okay, what can we do?

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Maybe we need to throw something extra on it,

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design it a little different.

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If you are able to do that,

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then that's great because then you can utilize the same product,

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but sometimes you have to cut your losses and be able

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to have that as a write off.

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So that's going to be the finance side.

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You want to talk to your accountants and things like that

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for that side,

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but don't just keep it,

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like you said,

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taking up valuable shelf space that you need for more products.

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Right. And you know what?

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This mistake just triggered what I couldn't remember a little bit

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earlier and that is you're right,

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exactly with the product that you're talking about.

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If it's just sitting there not selling,

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it's like a little piggy bank of money that you can't

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break into.

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You know?

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And if it's going to sit and stay and stay and

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stay for so long,

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it doesn't fit in a bundle like we were talking about

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before, you can't find a solution to get rid of the

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product. I would suggest,

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and I'll be interested in your comments to Alicia,

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but I would suggest even taking that and getting it out

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of there at a loss,

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selling less than cost Steven,

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because you're not tying up your money.

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Yeah, you didn't make any money on it.

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You might've paid the customer for the sale to take it

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off your hands,

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but at least it's adding back into your cash flow and

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you've learned that that's not the right product for your customer.

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The sizing's wrong,

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you know,

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whatever the reason why it wasn't selling,

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but getting it out of there,

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I think there is a time and a place to do

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that. Consciously knowing that that's what you're doing,

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knowing that you are taking a loss on it but clearing

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it out.

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Yes, that's an absolute great suggestion and I highly recommend it.

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After you have looked at those numbers,

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like you said,

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you want to make sure that you are being conscious about

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it and you're not just like,

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well, this didn't sell and I just bought it so too

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bad we're just going to cut our losses.

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You want to be strategic about it.

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You want to make sure that you're looking at those numbers

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and learning from them.

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But another thing that you can do too is sell it

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back to the vendor.

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And a lot of people forget about this part is that

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you can go back to you or if it's a raw

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material, say and maybe you have extra leftover that you didn't

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use for your product.

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You can say,

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Hey look,

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I have this extra and start the conversation.

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Sometimes they might say no and that's okay,

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but at least you tried the answers already.

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No, if you don't try,

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Right, you might as well ask.

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Yes. So ask the question and say,

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Hey look,

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I have this.

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Are you willing to buy it back at price?

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Or maybe you have to sell it back at a discount.

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Obviously you don't want to,

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but they might just buy it back at cost Or in

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exchange for a different color.

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If it's an ingredient as part of,

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or an element of a design,

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maybe the red beads aren't selling,

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but by golly,

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you need the pink ones or whatever.

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So you can,

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if you're a good enough customer,

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and I think that gets into vendor relations,

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right? But if you're a good enough customer and you're sitting

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on product,

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my never thought of doing that.

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I think that's an excellent suggestion.

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Talking about inventory,

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and this is gonna be my last question for you cause

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we're winding down here.

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What types of tools would you suggest for a small business

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owner to really get a handle on their inventory?

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Because you're saying don't just rely on Shopify.

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What would be a good suggestion of what we should be

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using? So there are a few inventory management systems out there

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and for Shopify does have very good tools but you don't

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just want to use just their inventory management one.

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You want to be able to kind of dive a little

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deeper. So you might want to add on a few extra

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plugins to your shop to kind of better understand where those

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numbers are coming from and why it's doing what it's doing.

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But on that side it's really not that difficult to run

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the numbers.

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And I mean I do it daily.

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What type of plugins are you thinking people should use?

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I don't know specifically off the top of my head and

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write those down.

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Usually I just analyze it with my customers to see what

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they're using and then see how we can tweak it to

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better make sense for their business so that it is tying

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in all those things.

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The raw materials,

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they do have that vendor management that it's an all in

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one encompassing kind of thing for them like dashboard style.

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Let's move on and I'm just curious what you're looking at

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for your future.

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So you've got your full time job that you're already doing,

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you're working with people to help them here with their inventory,

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profit margins,

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all the numbers,

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scary things.

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Right. Where do you see this going?

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The future Eventually I'd like to make this my full time

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gig. I really enjoy working my day job.

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I don't mind it.

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I never really have minded my day job.

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I just always felt like I was called to do and

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be more than clock in and out nine to fiver.

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I would like to,

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and this is just because I believe so strongly in self

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care and mindset host something of a self care summit for

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product businesses maybe in that early February season after they are

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done with all of that back and forth and holiday and

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craziness where they can,

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okay, let's crunch a few numbers,

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let's get you kind of situated,

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but let's just take a breath to instead of rushing into

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the next season.

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So really being able to just create that space for these

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product businesses where not only do you feel like,

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okay, I can kind of understand my business and that side

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of my business,

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even though it's difficult,

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but I can also feel empowered to just breathe in that

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business doesn't always have to be a hustle and a grind

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and a go,

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go, go.

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It is important to still take that time to Woosah.

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And did you get this idea just from the fact that

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in working with business owners,

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you're just seeing their levels of stress?

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Yes. And I mean,

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okay, so I'm in my late twenties and I gone through

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burnout. So I can only imagine the people who are putting

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their heart and soul into a product and maybe being a

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parent as well and just the stress and all of that

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that goes into running a business.

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It is hard and I get that and I've seen other

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businesses I've worked with go from season to season to season

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without breathing or taking a vacation or stopping.

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So take some time to pamper yourself,

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to treat yourself to something nice,

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even if it's like,

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okay. The other day I was feeling extremely stressed out,

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been dealing with some stuff with my mom's passing.

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I'm sorry about that.

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Thank you.

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And I was like,

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I can't do this.

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I don't know what I'm doing.

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I'm feeling overwhelmed.

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They make this so difficult.

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And then I just went to a local Mexican restaurant,

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ate some enchiladas for lunch and read a true crime book

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for an hour.

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There you go.

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Getting away.

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It does a world of good for your mindset,

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that's for sure.

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Absolutely. And it made all the difference.

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I got back to my phone afterwards and everything had figured

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out itself out.

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I was like,

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okay, it's okay.

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There you go.

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It's okay.

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Big deep breath.

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What I find sometimes is people so easily can call you

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wanting answers to their questions and sometimes if you just wait

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for a little bit,

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they figure it out themselves and then they're empowered to figure

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it out later too.

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So we don't always have to take on all the problems

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of the world,

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but sometimes we want to.

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Right. Okay.

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So Alicia,

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where can our listeners go to find out more about you?

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Yeah, so I have a podcast called the product bench and

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it's all about this kind of stuff that we talked about

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today. Those promotional strategies,

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going to have a lot of solo episodes uploaded by this

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time, so you'll have lots to binge if you need to.

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And then Instagram is really my favorite place to hang out,

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mostly Instagram stories,

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a lot of just real life craziness with my two boys

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and my husband.

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So Alicia DACA lady over there.

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Wonderful. Thank you.

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Well, I appreciate so much all of your direction.

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This will really be helpful for all of our listeners as

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we are past the holidays and then trying to figure out

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what to do with all of our inventory.

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So thank you so much for all your knowledge and expertise.

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I really appreciate having you here today And thank you so

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much for having me on today.

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I really appreciated it and I really hope everyone was able

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to find some type of nugget or truth that they can

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take into their day and run with it.

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Definitely. Thank you again.

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Bye. Bye.

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Bye. There you go.

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Whether you just listened to this show in real time or

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you're catching up and it's already January,

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Alicia has given us actionable ideas to clear out product and

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That's so exciting and filled with possibility,

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but before we get to next year,

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I want to tell you about next week.

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I met our guest a few months ago and she has

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become one of my favorites.

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You know how you meet someone and they just light up

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the room.

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It's almost like there's like sparkles and glitter all around.

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That's Sam.

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She's as sweet and bubbly as she can be and so

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is her product.

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Hear all about it on next week's show,

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and until then,

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happy holiday selling.

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I want to make sure you're familiar with my free Facebook

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group called gift is free.

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It's a place where we all gather and our community to

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support each other.

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We've got a really fun post in there.

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That's my favorite of the week,

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I have to say where I invite all of you to

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share what you're doing,

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to show pictures of your product and to show them what

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you're working on for the week,

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to get reaction from other people and just for fun because

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we all get to see the wonderful products that everybody in

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the community is making.

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My favorite post every single week without doubt,

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wait, what aren't you part of the group already?

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If not,

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make sure to jump over to Facebook and search for the

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group gift biz breeze.

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Don't delay.

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